Our gov. is poised to seize private property.. (sales, law)

[AtkinsonDan]

Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd

What do you think about our Gov. seizing private property?

Reinforces my belief that I am on the correct side of the MA/NH border.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

How do you remove guns from non-registered people? The state wouldn't or shouldn't know if they did it correctly.

Usually seized during arrests for other crimes, ie. drugs or domestics. Of course they would know, all they have to do is run the serial # to see if it was properly registered/transferred.

[FCMA]

The retroactive seizure of something previously legal is actually disturbing. This is the kind of thing that makes MA a caricature out in "real" America.

If the left ever wants to win Washington back from the current subhuman pig-dog nihilist plutocrats disguised as a formerly semi respectable Republican Party, it needs to go the Bernie route and soften a little on guns and stop short of over-reach when it comes to gun control. Seizures of formerly legal equipment is such an over-reach.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by FCMA

The retroactive seizure of something previously legal is actually disturbing. This is the kind of thing that makes MA a caricature out in "real" America.

If the left ever wants to win Washington back from the current subhuman pig-dog nihilists disguised as a formerly semi respectable Republican Party, it needs to go the Bernie route and soften a little on guns and stop short of over-reach when it comes to gun control. Seizures of formerly legal equipment is such an over-reach.

Hopefully Healey will be voted out. It's certainly possible. Even of people I know who voted for her are now disgusted by her overreach on that and other things, and will never support her again.

[AtkinsonDan]

Originally Posted by FCMA

The retroactive seizure of something previously legal is actually disturbing. This is the kind of thing that makes MA a caricature out in "real" America.

If the left ever wants to win Washington back from the current subhuman pig-dog nihilist plutocrats disguised as a formerly semi respectable Republican Party, it needs to go the Bernie route and soften a little on guns and stop short of over-reach when it comes to gun control. Seizures of formerly legal equipment is such an over-reach.

It is a very dangerous precedent. I suspect future generations may come to rue this day when other things are retroactively deemed illegal and subject to forfeiture.

[MMS02760]

I applaud the governor's move.

[Cape Cod Todd]

Originally Posted by FCMA

The retroactive seizure of something previously legal is actually disturbing. This is the kind of thing that makes MA a caricature out in "real" America.

If the left ever wants to win Washington back from the current subhuman pig-dog nihilist plutocrats disguised as a formerly semi respectable Republican Party, it needs to go the Bernie route and soften a little on guns and stop short of over-reach when it comes to gun control. Seizures of formerly legal equipment is such an over-reach.

"The retroactive seizure of something previously legal is actually disturbing"


It is VERY disturbing.
I think we can all agree that if a product is shown to be and deemed unsafe then that product should probably be banned, stopped being produced and illegal to buy BUT this ban on bump stocks go one step further.
Most gun owners are law abiding individuals that have had to fill out paperwork for a back ground check, take classes and pay fees in order to get their license so they can legally buy a firearm. I'm sure that most of the law abiding citizens will comply and turn in their bump stocks but what about those that refuse because they consider it to be a huge over reach by the Government. Nothing will happen to them until they are caught and then they could lose everything.

When one thinks about the waste of ammo a bump stock gives a shooter how many are actually out in public hands? are we talking hundreds? a thousand? Is it that evil that it needs to be eradicated from the state? Of course any criminals that have one will not be turning theirs in.

As far as the crank devices they were designed for people with disabilities that still wanted to enjoy shooting sports. I guess those folks that need them are out of luck.

The question is what is next to be banned and retroactively seized?

Of course another issue that is facing our fine state is that recreational marijuana was made legal by a vote of the public BUT the Feds are looking to clamp down on that to the point where any pot shop has to deal in cash because if they bring their money to the bank the bank can be charged with taking in drug money.

Bump stocks are bad and no one cares about people losing their rights to own one.
Pot is good and if the Feds push the issue of keeping it illegal people are going to flip and probably storm DC under a cloud of thick white smoke.


They are all OK with the Government over reach until they come for something they enjoy.

[Pilot1]

Mass is a Communist HELL HOLE. The government hates that you have any guns at all. Next they will tax your ammo more, and make you pass a background check to buy ammo.

[scorpio516]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

and make you pass a background check to buy ammo.

You already have to.

Can't buy ammo without a FID

[Cape Cod Todd]

Originally Posted by scorpio516

You already have to.

Can't buy ammo without a FID

That is true. You cannot buy rifle ammo without a FID and hand gun ammo unless you have a license to own a hand gun which I say is a good thing. It keeps the unlicensed from buying bullets for their stolen black market guns.

The state has a law on the books that if someone is caught with a gun and or bullets that they are not licensed to possess it is a mandatory one year in prison but it is seldom enforced and often plea bargained away. WHY?
When the Police catch a guy dealing drugs they often find a stash of cash and an illegal gun or 2.
It is just part of the drug business but the liberal judges often toss the gun charges out the window. WHY?

They go easy on the criminals yet come down hard on law abiding citizens gun owners who may or may not turn their bump stocks and lever activated trigger devices in thus turning themselves into criminals.

Mass is like any other Lefty Liberal run state. They ignore the real problems while cracking down on the law abiding because they lawful will abide by the laws.

It is crazy to think that state can pass a law that makes something illegal that was yesterday legal for a law abiding individual to purchase. With the amount of money that the state wastes one would think that if they were forcing people to turn in what was once legal that they could at least provide some compensation.
They have gun buy back programs so why not bump stock buy backs.
You have 90 days before you are a would be felon.
for the first 30 days you will get $100 for turning in your bump stock. 30 to 60 it will be $50. 60 -90 $25 and after 90 don't be surprised when there is a knock on your door and the state police are there to take you away.