08-14-2018, 12:28 PM
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Since Springfield is under represented on the board, how about a rambling thread about the goings on here?
08-14-2018, 01:51 PM
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Since Springfield is under represented on the board, how about a rambling thread about the goings on here?
I always thought WMass should have its own sub forum. Oh well, that's not gonna happen.
I reserve judgement on what's going to happen to Springfield. Long ago, I used to love the place. I was born there. I don't care for casinos and I don't think that's the answer but, of course, maybe that's just my own nostalgia for a place that will never be the same as it was. Places change.
I would go there once to check out the casino and see what it's like but I have no interest in gambling. I am concerned about how this will affect traffic in the area.
Has the casino down in SE CT really made a difference for that area? It's brought in tax revenue but did it actually help the surrounding towns? I don't know. I don't think it had much effect though.
Where will all the poor people who inhabit Springfield go now? Hartford? Is there a possibility that we can get anything better than a casino? It was a great city, it's right on a major river, has a major highway, is near the MA Pike, has one of the best parks anywhere--it has a lot going for it but no one so far has been able to revive it. Added to that is the rampant corruption that will probably rear its ugly head again. Wondering.
08-14-2018, 02:01 PM
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I don't see how any good can come from building a casino in a place that's already high crime. I think they are better off put in the boonies like the ones in Connecticut. We shall see.
08-14-2018, 02:02 PM
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I always thought WMass should have its own sub forum. Oh well, that's not gonna happen.
They’re staying in Springfield that’s like asking where were all the poor people in Atlantic City go...Especially with Windsor Windsor locks planning another casino in central Connecticut..If anything they’ll go to Holyoke in Chicopee because it’s easier to love there than having to get a new license, new plates and stuff across the border
08-14-2018, 02:20 PM
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I don't see how any good can come from building a casino in a place that's already high crime. I think they are better off put in the boonies like the ones in Connecticut. We shall see.
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They’re staying in Springfield that’s like asking where were all the poor people in Atlantic City go...Especially with Windsor Windsor locks planning another casino in central Connecticut..If anything they’ll go to Holyoke in Chicopee because it’s easier to love there than having to get a new license, new plates and stuff across the border
I think it's a stupid place to plop a casino. Took a long time to supposedly rid Springfield of the mob. I was talking to some guys from Indian Orchard (Spfld) and when I said that, they replied, "They never DID get rid of the mob." So this sounds like an open invitation for the mob to make a comeback. They always inhabited the South End of Springfield. How convenient.
If they really wanted to have a casino it should have gone in Palmer. Down trodden area that failed when the paper mills closed, connected to Ware, which is one of the worst towns in the entire state--those people could have benefitted from the jobs. Palmer has its own exit on the Mass Pike and is in between Worcester and Springfield. Palmer is enough out of the way that any ill effects of casinos wouldn't have hurt anyone and yet it accessible to people who wanted to get there. Similar to the casinos in CT.
Poor people will have to move to Holyoke or Chicopee. I hope CT doesn't put another casino in Windsor Locks. Can't anyone think of other ways to raise revenue? What did we do before casinos? With so many of them, I think they will just cancel each other out.
08-14-2018, 07:41 PM
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I don't see how any good can come from building a casino in a place that's already high crime. I think they are better off put in the boonies like the ones in Connecticut. We shall see.
Casinos are all over the country in much higher crime areas than the South end - thinking New Orleans and Detroit (both MGM casinos) off the top of my head. There are hundreds of casinos in the country with no rise in crime. They are pretty much a closed venue - you drive into the parking garage, take the elevator down.
08-14-2018, 07:46 PM
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I was talking to some guys from Indian Orchard (Spfld) and when I said that, they replied, "They never DID get rid of the mob." So this sounds like an open invitation for the mob to make a comeback. They always inhabited the South End of Springfield. How convenient.
The big casino corporations are pretty immune to the mob. MGM operates casinos in areas where THEIR mob makes Springfield look like kiddie land. Many people have an outdated 'old time Vegas' image of the casino business. It's more like Disney now. Super efficient and highly skilled in doing what they do. They have no interest in being the target of the IRS and FBI.
08-14-2018, 08:07 PM
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I think the traffic will be a nightmare initially, but slow to a trickle. It's not like a sporting event where everyone comes and leaves at the same time. Mohegan Sun is many times the size of MGM and I've never seen any heavy traffic - and I was there every week for years as part of my job.
I'm not sure why so much responsibility is placed on a casino to make a huge difference in an area. What other business is expected to fix all a city's failings? The 3,000 people they've hired so far are probably happy to be employed. As were the hundreds of well paid union craftsmen who built the place. Purchasing all restaurant and bar supplies from Kitterege (when they probably have suppliers they've dealt with for decades) made a difference to that business. The contract they signed with Park Cleaners to handle their uniform cleaning. The contracts with Frigos, Iron Duke Brewing, White Lion Brewery, Yankee Mattress Company, AC Produce, Bernadinos, Tougias, Hood, Chicopee Provisions, Performance Food Group - all have a major impact on their businesses and will probably result in more hiring.
I doubt I'll throw a penny in a slot machine, but this is the first major investment in a business in Springfield since.....? Of course actually having PEOPLE downtown will cause traffic, but the alternative is the ghost town we have now. As far as "can't we have something better?". The casino doesn't preclude any other business from opening downtown if they choose, but I haven't seen them lining up to do that for a few decades now.
08-14-2018, 08:45 PM
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IWLC, who decides who gets all those contracts (especially construction)?
08-15-2018, 04:30 AM
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IWLC, who decides who gets all those contracts (especially construction)?
MGM is a private business and I'm sure they take proposals like any other business does. Who builds Walmarts? Malls? Who provides hot dog buns to Disney? I'm sure it's based on who has the ability to handle a project of that size and at the most competitive price.
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People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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