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Old 04-19-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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For reference, these are the 2013 ACS Ancestry numbers for each town. I tried to paste a link but it goes directly to a generic American Factfinder search page.

Dracut Mass:

Total ancestries reported: 39131

Total reporting French/French Canadian Ancestry: 8458 (nearly 22%)

Lewiston Maine:

Total ancestries reported: 44595


Total reporting French/French Canadian Ancestry: 16486 (nearly 40%)


Chicopee, Mass:

Total ancestries reported: 69990

Total reporting French/French Canadian: 16020 (around 22%)

Southbridge, Mass:

Total Ancestries reported: 21365

Total reporting French/French Canadian: 4999 (around 24%)

Manchester, NH:

Total ancestries reported: 134,529

Total reporting French/French Canadian: 31,661 (around 23%)

Woonsocket, RI:

Total Ancestries Reported: 50679

French/French Canadian: 16803 (over 33%)


In each of these places, those reporting French or French Canadian ancestry are the largest ancestry group in the population so I would imagine there is at least a remnant of Quebec heritage if not active Quebec culture in these towns. So, I don't know where you could get the idea that Franco-Americans "haven't lived in these towns for decades" lol.
Would you mind posting how you derived these statistics? I looked at the ACS and could not find 2013 data, much less ancestry information. The best I could do was race (and not for 2013).

BTW: I agree with the poster(s) who said that French-Canadian culture is very much diluted in New England, outside of the parts of Maine close to New Brunswick, where you'll find people flying the Acadian flag. Those people, BTW, were originally from Brittany and Normandy, unlike Quebecois, who derived from the Loire River Valley (and brought their strange, long, narrow away from the river parcel development patterns with them).
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Old 04-19-2019, 02:04 PM
 
Location: North Quabbin, MA
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Plenty of French Canadian ancestry in N Central MA, factory towns like Gardner and Fitchburg and surrounding areas. Totally anglicized last name pronunciations have taken over in many cases (Arsenault = “Arson-alt”, Bourgault = “Burg-alt”, Benoit = “Ben-oyt”) but it’s clear where these folks came from a few generations ago.
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Old 04-19-2019, 02:11 PM
 
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Plenty of French Canadian ancestry in N Central MA, factory towns like Gardner and Fitchburg and surrounding areas. Totally anglicized last name pronunciations have taken over in many cases (Arsenault = “Arson-alt”, Bourgault = “Burg-alt”, Benoit = “Ben-oyt”) but it’s clear where these folks came from a few generations ago.
Athol, Gardner, Winchendon, Templeton, etc. folk are heavily Acadian ancestry (from northern New Brunswick).
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Old 04-20-2019, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Would you mind posting how you derived these statistics? I looked at the ACS and co

BTW: I agree with the poster(s) who said that French-Canadian culture is very much diluted in New England, outside of the parts of Maine close to New Brunswick, where you'll find people flying the Acadian flag. Those people, BTW, were originally from Brittany and Normandy, unlike Quebecois, who derived from the Loire River Valley (and b.
More like the other way around.

Québécois are primarily descended from people in Normandy and the Paris region.

Acadiens are generally descended from people in the Loire valley and Poitou-Charente.
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Old 04-25-2019, 06:20 PM
 
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More like the other way around.

Québécois are primarily descended from people in Normandy and the Paris region.

Acadiens are generally descended from people in the Loire valley and Poitou-Charente.
Interesting, I had read a number of times exactly what I wrote. Just goes to show ...
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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Hi,

To get the 2013 ACS Statistics on ancestry, go to this page, which is the Advanced Search Option for American Factfinder, https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...html?refresh=t

And then enter Total Ancestry Reported in the left search bar and enter the town or municipality you want info for in the right search bar
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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Would you mind posting how you derived these statistics? I looked at the ACS and could not find 2013 data, much less ancestry information. The best I could do was race (and not for 2013).

BTW: I agree with the poster(s) who said that French-Canadian culture is very much diluted in New England, outside of the parts of Maine close to New Brunswick, where you'll find people flying the Acadian flag. Those people, BTW, were originally from Brittany and Normandy, unlike Quebecois, who derived from the Loire River Valley (and brought their strange, long, narrow away from the river parcel development patterns with them).
Hi,

To get the 2013 ACS Statistics on ancestry, go to this page, which is the Advanced Search Option for American Factfinder, https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...html?refresh=t

And then enter Total Ancestry Reported in the left search bar and enter the town or municipality you want info for in the right search bar
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Old 05-14-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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I grew up in the Aldenville neighborhood of Chicopee in the 1980's. It wasn't uncommon to hear French still spoken back then. My mothers first language was French but she didn't speak it after going to Catholic school besides a few words and phrases she remembered and taught us. My fathers side of the family didn't speak French at home although his father grew up speaking French. Everyone in Aldenville was "French Canadian", and called their grandparents meme and pepe, or maybe nana and pepe. Yes, we know that's the incorrect spelling. We grew up eating all of the old Quebecoise foods but they were mostly in English. You can still get some traditional Quebec food (mostly a classic like tourtiere) in a few of the the local diners. One thing that was unique about us was the fact that we never had any big parades or celebrations whereas other ethnic immigrant groups in the area, Irish, Polish, Italian, Puerto Ricans, and others, had annual bombastic celebrations. I always liked that we didn't have to beat our chests in public like that.
This petit canada was centered on the Ste Rose de Lima church (which still flies the fleur-de-lis) and the Sainte Jeanne d'Arc Catholic school across the street. A lot of the streets are named after the original French Canadian families that first built up the community and that includes the surrounding Willimansett and Chicopee Falls neighborhoods. Both my pepe's built their own houses.
There was a fair number of Quebeckers in Chicopee back then as well and I went to a number of weddings and family picnic reunions with those people and their funny accents.
Nowadays there are still a lot of families, streets, and businesses (try google maps) with Quebec and Acadian surnames in Aldenville but a lot of people have moved into surrounding cities and towns. There's a small Franco-American Institute there now as well, I believe. The whole Holyoke-Chicopee-Springfield old milltown metropolitan area is pretty economically depressed. A lot of crime, drug addiction, and suicide. I left the area almost 20 years ago.
As far as French language goes, the last census I checked, Aldenville was at 15%. Pretty sad.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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Many of the old mill towns and cities across New England had large concentrations of French-Canadians. Pawtucket and the border town Central Falls in RI were such places. Even as recently as the 2000 census, over 20% of Pawtucket's 70k residents had French or French Canadian ancestry. Until recently, the city had three primarily French Catholic Churches/parishes - St Jean the Baptist, our Lady of Consolation, and St Cecelia's.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Many of the old mill towns and cities across New England had large concentrations of French-Canadians. Pawtucket and the border town Central Falls in RI were such places. Even as recently as the 2000 census, over 20% of Pawtucket's 70k residents had French or French Canadian ancestry. Until recently, the city had three primarily French Catholic Churches/parishes - St Jean the Baptist, our Lady of Consolation, and St Cecelia's.
How many parishes does Pawtucket have now?
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