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Old 07-11-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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Hey Matrix5k,

Offer up some job locations and lets run google maps to see how the commute compares against Burlington.
Well I work at Oracle and my wife at Lahey so we don't have any reason to go to Natick. Is there even a hospital in Natick?
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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Well I work at Oracle and my wife at Lahey so we don't have any reason to go to Natick. Is there even a hospital in Natick?
yes there is, metrowest medical center. Newton Wellesley hospital is also 13 minutes away from my house without traffic.
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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As a former Ma-holer, I always considered those towns inside Rte 128 (I95) to be attached to Boston. Those towns outside that area like Chelmsford, to be attached to the nearest city like Lowell, etc. Those towns outside I495 to be attached to Worcester, or NH, or RI. I cannot for the life of me consider Natick attached to anything except maybe Framingham.

I realize since my time there, places like Natick, Stow, etc. are now considered suburbs of Boston. The times they do change.
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Old 07-11-2019, 06:52 PM
 
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As a former Ma-holer, I always considered those towns inside Rte 128 (I95) to be attached to Boston. Those towns outside that area like Chelmsford, to be attached to the nearest city like Lowell, etc. Those towns outside I495 to be attached to Worcester, or NH, or RI. I cannot for the life of me consider Natick attached to anything except maybe Framingham.

I realize since my time there, places like Natick, Stow, etc. are now considered suburbs of Boston. The times they do change.
What about Weston and Wellesley?
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:47 PM
 
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Well I work at Oracle and my wife at Lahey so we don't have any reason to go to Natick. Is there even a hospital in Natick?
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yes there is, metrowest medical center. Newton Wellesley hospital is also 13 minutes away from my house without traffic.
Given the choice, I'd choose Lahey over Leonard Morse/MWMC. Lahey was just awarded level 1 trauma certification.

As for Newton Wellesley being 13 minutes away without traffic - that's great for the middle of the night. That being said, I take my parents from Waltham to NWH and MGH West rather than bringing them back to Burlington.
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:50 PM
 
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Given the choice, I'd choose Lahey over Leonard Morse/MWMC. Lahey was just awarded level 1 trauma certification.

As for Newton Wellesley being 13 minutes away without traffic - that's great for the middle of the night. That being said, I take my parents from Waltham to NWH and MGH West rather than bringing them back to Burlington.

Its 22min in rush hour. 15-18 mid day.

How often do you really need to go to the hospital?

Newton Wellesley is so close it pretty much feels like it is right next door. No need to be closer. why would you need it any closer?

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Old 07-12-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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What about Weston and Wellesley?
My experience says they qualify as traditional Boston suburbs. I do accept that towns like Natick, Stow, etc. are now considered suburbs of Boston.

I lived in downtown Chicago then moved to a suburb that was 44 miles from downtown Chicago but it had frequent train service, one hour to 1.3 hours trip depending on the number of stops. With reliable/frequent train service a "suburb" could be 75 miles out. Reliable/frequent train service is one thing eastern MA lacks.

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Old 07-12-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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My experience says they qualify as traditional Boston suburbs. I do accept that towns like Natick, Stow, etc. are now considered suburbs of Boston.

I lived in downtown Chicago then moved to a suburb that was 44 miles from downtown Chicago but it had frequent train service, one hour to 1.3 hours trip depending on the number of stops. With reliable/frequent train service a "suburb" could be 75 miles out. Reliable/frequent train service is one thing eastern MA lacks.
Yes but Weston, Wellesley, and Needham are outside of 128 so you said only towns inside of 128 are associated with Boston? What about the tiny sliver of Auburndale that is west of 128, is that not a suburb of Boston?

And why compare Natick to stow? What about comparing it to Concord for example? Concord is about the same distance to Boston as Natick is (actually Natick is a little closer) Was Concord a suburb of Boston back in the day?
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Old 07-12-2019, 02:21 PM
 
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Yes but Weston, Wellesley, and Needham are outside of 128 so you said only towns inside of 128 are associated with Boston? What about the tiny sliver of Auburndale that is west of 128, is that not a suburb of Boston?

And why compare Natick to stow? What about comparing it to Concord for example? Concord is about the same distance to Boston as Natick is (actually Natick is a little closer) Was Concord a suburb of Boston back in the day?
Not to split geographic hairs exactly on Rte 128 but most of Needham is outside Rte 128 and it is considered a Boston Suburb and there is a snippet of Weston inside Rte 128.

My reference Natick to Stow was only saying that the suburbs get further and further out. There are people on here talking about commuting to Boston/Cambridge from Hopkinton, Shrewsbury, etc.

I once lived in Andover and commuted to Providence. Thankfully I was in outside sales and I did not have to do it 5 days a week so that does not count.

Speaking of Weston. Weston can get tricky. Some parts of it are close to the Rte 128/Weston/Mass Pike exit. Other parts are closer to the Trapelo Rd exit on Rte 128. I was born and raised in Waltham. I had family in Weston and we West End Waltham boys always chased the girls from Weston. I knew Weston quite well and it was considered wealthy back then.

For reference I was born and raised in Waltham but lived in DC, NYC, LA, SF, Ohio, Chicago, then back to MA. I left Andover MA in 2001 for SC. I (along with a few others) owned property (two, two family houses) in Waltham up until 2006. The present prices in Waltham choke me. I should have held on longer....LOL

I once asked why I see no love for Wayland? Many of the wealthy people that worked in Waltham, lived in Weston and Wayland.
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Old 07-12-2019, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Dripping Springs, Texas
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Concord never was a suburb of Boston. I grew up in the west suburbs 60 to 70 years ago. We were keenly aware of Paul Revere's Ride down Massachusetts Avenue from Concord to Lexington, Arlington, to the Old North Church and that history connected us to our awareness of our location. Beyond that, we thought of the town we lived in relative to our ethnic group or religion. For example, Bedford and Burlington were side-by-side but Bedford was a blue collar wasp town, largely Republican and didn't have a Catholic Church. By the early 60s when Burlington was becoming suburbanized it already had one Catholic Church and then built the new St. Malachy's across from McCarthy's pig farm. So that's where the Irish and Italian Catholics moved to. When McCarthy's pig farm was forced out it was the seminal event marking Burlington's transition to a suburb of post World War Two white collar upwardly mobile residents and people like the Grahams were building stick built 3 bed/2 bath colonials for $18,900.
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