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Old 03-17-2021, 11:50 AM
 
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I'm not overstating anything. I'm just saying that there is a non-zero probability that at least one of the vaccines has some kind of long term safety issue. Nobody can say with 100% assurance that there won't be an issue since we have zero data. My opinion, which has no basis at all, is that it's highly unlikely but that's just my opinion.
IMO, "Low" and "not zero" leaves amble room for incorrect interpretation. Stating "highly unlikely" places the odds closer to what is probably real ... near zero.

Yeah, I'm being a bit overzealous here as I've grown tired of hearing vaccine concerns superceding virus concerns. The vaccine concerns are far more pervasive in my social sphere than I anticipated.
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Old 03-18-2021, 06:17 AM
 
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I have faith in vaccines but I have more faith in better vaccines. I rather not take the vaccine from AstraZeneca and I certainly wouldn't want to take one that's from China give me the one from Pfizer
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:24 AM
 
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Here's a question not meant to stir up controversy, but an effort to understand the mindset of a select group of people.


In my daily commute, I continue to see people, driving alone in a car, wearing a mask. Nobody else is in the car. Why?
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:24 AM
 
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There is a non-zero probability of a long term adverse event for ALL new therapies - statistically and practically.

That is why so much care, thought, statistical design, and expense goes into clinical trial design and execution. Of course, trials are still a subset of the population and can't assess all permutations and combinations.

I can understand why there is some trepidation around new mRNA technology but the same can be said for any of the new biologics therapies that are hugely successful. It is a risk/reward/probability situation.

I would get a shot tomorrow without hesitation if it was my turn, and I am theoretically at very low risk impact from COVID.
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:26 AM
 
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Here's a question not meant to stir up controversy, but an effort to understand the mindset of a select group of people.


In my daily commute, I continue to see people, driving alone in a car, wearing a mask. Nobody else is in the car. Why?
Lol. My DH always makes fun of those people. I don't know why they do it unless they just didn't feel like taking it off.
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:41 AM
 
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Lol. My DH always makes fun of those people. I don't know why they do it unless they just didn't feel like taking it off.

If you're properly trained to use PPE in a hospital, you put it on once and leave it on. Any time you take it off risks infection. That's N95, shield, gloves, etc. Before COVID-19 created a shortage, the N95 mask and gloves went straight into the trash when you removed them and you always put on fresh ones.


I generally use a surgical mask which doesn't do much to protect me. It's to protect other people. Getting in the car, I alcohol wipe my hands from the pump bottle in the door and hang the surgical mask from the mirror. If I'm out shopping and driving a couple minutes to the next store, I might leave the mask on.
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:51 AM
 
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Here's a question not meant to stir up controversy, but an effort to understand the mindset of a select group of people.


In my daily commute, I continue to see people, driving alone in a car, wearing a mask. Nobody else is in the car. Why?
Probably multiple stops and easier to leave it on - greatest risk in mask wearing is contamination from your hands when removing it.

Maybe they are belting out 80s tunes and want to do it on the DL without judging eyes.
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:53 AM
 
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Ok, that makes logical sense. I employ a different strategy, but I can understand the reasoning now.
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Old 03-18-2021, 07:58 AM
 
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Probably multiple stops and easier to leave it on - greatest risk in mask wearing is contamination from your hands when removing it.

Maybe they are belting out 80s tunes and want to do it on the DL without judging eyes.

My Achy Breaky Heart requires a mask.
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Old 03-18-2021, 08:28 AM
 
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Here's a question not meant to stir up controversy, but an effort to understand the mindset of a select group of people.


In my daily commute, I continue to see people, driving alone in a car, wearing a mask. Nobody else is in the car. Why?
I have actually given this more thought than I should. These are my hypotheses:

1. Uber or Lyft driver
2. Forgot it is on (this has happened to me for a couple of minutes after going through a drive-thru)
3. Currently has covid and wants to get out of the house, but maybe wants to keep virus to a minimum in the car?
4. As someone else said, has multiple stops close together and just not worth taking it off
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