Coronavirus in Massachusetts (New Bedford, Chelsea, Bedford: transporting, home, transport)

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns

Even more safe to say Massachusetts, New York, and New Jersey are not models to emulate.

I've made this analogy before, so I apologize if you've heard it already. If you're a fan of an NFL team that goes 1-15, I am very open-minded when it comes to arguments that you're really a 5-11 team -- you had injuries, a couple really bad calls in high-leverage spots, an unfair schedule, whatever. I am very NOT open-minded if you try to argue you're actually a 15-1 team, and everyone should emulate you.

The actual 15-1 team is Vermont. And maybe (if you're not sick of this analogy yet), they're actually an 11-5 team that's had a lot of luck. But that's why I don't get into it with people from Vermont like I do with people from Massachusetts. You guys don't have the results to back up your attitude; they do.

I agree to some of this. But I think it would be more accurate to say that Massachusetts, New York and New Jersey, were not models to emulate IN MARCH OR APRIL OF 2020 when most of those deaths occurred. They were also among the first states hit. I'm not sure if other states would have handled things better, or differently under those circumstances.



Again you seem fixated on this "attitude" thing, which is bizarre considering this is an anonymous forum and many of these posters aren't even from Massachusetts. Don't make me come over to the Ohio forum and start cherry picking the bad apples over there.

[id77]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Then people you know are an anomaly. Data shows that group as having the highest levels of vaccination.

Picking on one state (Kansas), 55-64 have a 58% vaccination rate and ramps up to 80% at age 80. It sounds high, but keep in mind that's still 42% of people 55-64 and 1 in 5 people at age 80 who aren't. Alabama is similar numbers.

That's either an outrageous number of exemptions, or there's still an uncomfortably high number of vax-hesitant/anti-vax among the older population.

Just because they have a higher percentage than the 25-54 crowd doesn't mean they're suddenly all smart about this.

Either way, 20% is hardly an anomaly and it's a threat.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by id77

Picking on one state (Kansas), 55-64 have a 58% vaccination rate and ramps up to 80% at age 80. It sounds high, but keep in mind that's still 42% of people 55-64 and 1 in 5 people at age 80 who aren't. Alabama is similar numbers.

That's either an outrageous number of exemptions, or there's still an uncomfortably high number of vax-hesitant/anti-vax among the older population.

Just because they have a higher percentage than the 25-54 crowd doesn't mean they're suddenly all smart about this.

Either way, 20% is hardly an anomaly and it's a threat.

But why would you pick on the old retirees in RVs (those least "likely" to spread the virus), and not the 25-54 crowd (who's obviously the biggest problem)?

[NewfieMama]

Mass is no longer reporting on hospitalizations for kids. Given school starting right around the corner, it would be helpful to see if kids are being hospitalized as cases rise.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coron...d-why/2464814/

[tribecavsbrowns]

Originally Posted by massnative71

I agree to some of this. But I think it would be more accurate to say that Massachusetts, New York and New Jersey, were not models to emulate IN MARCH OR APRIL OF 2020 when most of those deaths occurred. They were also among the first states hit. I'm not sure if other states would have handled things better, or differently under those circumstances.



Again you seem fixated on this "attitude" thing, which is bizarre considering this is an anonymous forum and many of these posters aren't even from Massachusetts. Don't make me come over to the Ohio forum and start cherry picking the bad apples over there.

We have some truly awful ones over there. I don't mind if you come help put them in their place. Probably better, though, if I handle that and you handle the handful of clownish ones over here.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by massnative71

But why would you pick on the old retirees in RVs (those least "likely" to spread the virus), and not the 25-54 crowd (who's obviously the biggest problem)?

My MIL and her bf live in Arizona, have an RV and I"m fairly certain they are not vaccinated. I can only go by the boyfriends anti mask and anti vaccine posts on FB though....

I'll point out that they really dont go anywhere in the RV though...it was simply a stupid purchase.

[msRB311]

it's not my husband...but thanks.

[id77]

Originally Posted by massnative71

But why would you pick on the old retirees in RVs (those least "likely" to spread the virus), and not the 25-54 crowd (who's obviously the biggest problem)?

Because the original comment was that it’s too far to drive here so passports on flights keeps it out. 25-54 don’t usually have the free time to go galavanting cross-country by car but retirees do. The whole context matters.

[msRB311]

Obviously a plane is more capable of transporting large groups of unvaccinated people. I feel less worried about old people in RVs...they're the ones that will be dead soon enough anyways

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns

"Riffraff," LOLOLOLOL. A stupid cold virus has turned you into the mirror image of the psychotic Republican suburban empty-nester who berates neighborhood kids for stepping on his grass or playing music in their cars. It's truly breathtaking -- and pitiful -- to witness the transformation. "Riffraff." Good Lord.

If you're deathly afraid of mixing with people from the 47 states that have lower per capita death rates from Covid than Massachusetts, then...at what point do you have to admit to yourself that you're just deathly afraid of mixing with people, period?

Cold virus that's killed 610K+ people? Feel blessed that you obviously don't know anyone that's died from it or suffered a loss. It's folks like you who are literally prolonging the pandemic right now and posing a danger to others.