Critics Slam State Climate Bill (Carbon “TAX”) as TCI Back Door Gas Prices To Soar!

[jayrandom]

Originally Posted by kurttarvis

I am aware of the rankings of both states. It still doesn't change my mind that the best decision I made was moving out of Massachusetts. I can buy a decent house for 70k-100k and pay $200-500 a year in property taxes in WV. My salary in WV is only slightly lower than what it was in MA. For me, it's a win-win. The people are nicer, the nature and outdoors is VASTLY superior to the offerings in MA. It's not a state for everyone, just like Massachusetts is not for everyone. I also can't stand the creepy diehard liberalism of the Commonwealth. Just not for me. Paying higher taxes to "combat climate change" may be a priority for you, but it is not for me.

If you aren't making significantly more in MA, you probably shouldn't be here. Federal taxes are still progressive (and much bigger than state taxes), so living in a lower COL area with slightly higher taxes could still net you lower overall taxes.

[P Larsen]

WV covers a lot of highly wrinkled ground, with a lot of breathtaking beauty and some breathtaking ugly. Living in its eastern panhandle as compared to its southernmost counties an be about as different as living in Andover vs Lawrence MA. Thing is, we have already have three variations on WV within New England not too far from MA: VT, NH, and interior ME. All with a lot more proximity to services people tend to need as they get older and less pollution with a lot of gorgeous nature, and some pretty nice people, too.

[charolastra00]

Originally Posted by kurttarvis

30. Why?

I was trying to figure out if you're someone who's so old that they think it's someone else's problem or a freeloader.


Got my answer.

[airunxc]

Gas should be $4-5 a gallon. That will force people to buy smaller cars, drive less, this reducing traffic's, air pollution, dependence on foreign imports, etc.

[kurttarvis]

Originally Posted by charolastra00

I was trying to figure out if you're someone who's so old that they think it's someone else's problem or a freeloader.


Got my answer.

That's cute! And I am plenty generous, I support causes that I believe have an effect on my family, my community, and their future. As I am sure you do with causes you believe in.

[kurttarvis]

Originally Posted by P Larsen

WV covers a lot of highly wrinkled ground, with a lot of breathtaking beauty and some breathtaking ugly. Living in its eastern panhandle as compared to its southernmost counties an be about as different as living in Andover vs Lawrence MA. Thing is, we have already have three variations on WV within New England not too far from MA: VT, NH, and interior ME. All with a lot more proximity to services people tend to need as they get older and less pollution with a lot of gorgeous nature, and some pretty nice people, too.

I have always said that Maine is like the West Virginia of the north. I lived, for a brief period of time, in Aroostook County. First in Limestone and then in Caribou. Worlds difference from the coast and a world's difference from the more mountainous region. Like WV, parts of Maine are so far isolated from services. I always liked northern New England. Lived in all three of those states and enjoyed my time in each. Not somewhere I wanted to live permanently though, and that's just based on preference. We aren't staying here forever either. Plan on eventually just maintaining our vacation property deep up a holler here to escape too.

[TheGoodTheBadTheUgly]

Gas should be $4-5 a gallon. That will force people to buy smaller cars, drive less, this reducing traffic's, air pollution, dependence on foreign imports, etc.

Spoken like a true control freak...BTW...we’re not dependent on foreign energy imports!

[segfalt]

Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly

BTW...we’re not dependent on foreign energy imports!

I think this was a recent shift, so probably the poster has outdated knowledge. I'm glad we have some energy independence again. The migration to more and more electric cars will continue the trend, too.

[TheGoodTheBadTheUgly]

The migration to more and more electric cars will continue the trend, too.

Realistically I believe Hydrogen has the greatest potential to replace fossil fuels...JMHO...

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by segfalt

I think this was a recent shift, so probably the poster has outdated knowledge. I'm glad we have some energy independence again. The migration to more and more electric cars will continue the trend, too.

I'd argue you're operating on dated knowledge now. At $4X a barrel few, if any, of our domestic oil supplies are profitable. Unless we wish to socialize domestic oil production (more than we already are), it makes far more sense to buy from other sources.

Regardless, with transport and residential/commercial RE rapidly electrifying and increasing efficiency we likely just lived through 'peak oil', meaning energy independence will be found through lowered oil demand.