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It's silly dude. People from MA literally say “well then you'd have to live in __” for ANY state that's not MA. That's why it's the snobbiest state. I can't think of one state MA residents WOULDNT say this about-not a one.
Sure. Want the ocean and everything at your doorstep? Rhode Island. Want empty space, peace and quiet, mountains and lakes, hunting, skiing...New Hampshire. Like the hustle and bustle and have OP's family right there, New Jersey. Want cheap? Flyover USA. Depending on what else you may want, it's a wide open country out there. But to move to HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT? I mean who in the F???? And don't even get me started on the drivers...
Never been. Even having never seen it in person, I would still take it over a place like Hartford. I can understand the appeal of New England, but that Hartford/Springfield area is like the armpit of it from my impression. Might as well save your pennies and go with flyover country, if that is your main concern.
Never been. Even having never seen it in person, I would still take it over a place like Hartford. I can understand the appeal of New England, but that Hartford/Springfield area is like the armpit of it from my impression. Might as well save your pennies and go with flyover country, if that is your main concern.
It’s nice.. It’s got some bones that remind me of legacy money cities like Detroit but without the decay. Not a lot of standout suburbs, just very clearly a post war suburbanscape. Not my thing.
But many of the neighborhoods within Minneapolis and Saint Paul are very livable. The western neighborhoods in Saint Paul are pretty. Old homes, tree lined streets everywhere. Pretty much anything around Summit Ave is great, as an example of what to expect from the areas established hoods.
Southwest Minneapolis is similar. Tangletown and it’s surrounding north and west counterparts are classic. Tangletown is particularly cool as it’s a bunch of intertwined streets amongst the larger grid. Some of the architecture is right out of a Disney movie.. Don’t know how I’d describe it.
As an aside, I’ve had some decent eats in MSP. It’s not Chicago, but almost a mini version.. Juicy Lucy’s, some great steak houses, more ethnic food than you’d ever assume for an MSA known for hockey and boating.
Never been. Even having never seen it in person, I would still take it over a place like Hartford. I can understand the appeal of New England, but that Hartford/Springfield area is like the armpit of it from my impression. Might as well save your pennies and go with flyover country, if that is your main concern.
Again.. conflating HARTFORDs MSA and SPRINGFIELDs MSA is so ridiculous..on an economic and cultural level..theyre night and day.
Sure. Want the ocean and everything at your doorstep? Rhode Island. Want empty space, peace and quiet, mountains and lakes, hunting, skiing...New Hampshire. Like the hustle and bustle and have OP's family right there, New Jersey. Want cheap? Flyover USA. Depending on what else you may want, it's a wide open country out there. But to move to HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT? I mean who in the F???? And don't even get me started on the drivers...
....Like I said MA snobs think MA is head shoulders above the rest. There's no reasoning. As we all know anything you can reach in MA you can reach in CT without any real hassle. In addition to this you have less population density, lower housing prices, access to NYC and the same culture more or less. It's not a real difference in a practical sense: the biggest difference is property taxes. Fin.
I guess there's something that warrants 3x the housing cost? You'll never be able to afford to do all the cutest things living in MA but whatever I guess.
Again.. conflating HARTFORDs MSA and SPRINGFIELDs MSA is so ridiculous..on an economic and cultural level..theyre night and day.
What? The Big E, the Basketball Hall of Fame, the casino, and the Kielbasa Festival are the pinnacle of New England culture.
The comment about Hartford drivers was accurate. They’re Boston drivers with the aggressiveness but the have NYC horn use.
The most unexpected thing about West Hartford when we landed there four years ago was the big Jewish presence. The grocery stores have a kosher meat counter. You can get a real bagel.
West Hartford is kind of a 1968 time capsule. I presume Hartford white collar employment peaked then. There isn’t much that is newer. Blue Back Square, Whole Foods, and the Delmar Hotel. The Big Y in Bishops Corner and the Stop & Shop on Farmington are pretty dated. Still, I don’t think there is a suburban town center that is comparable. Hartford is such a wasteland that affluent people go to West Hartford Center from the farther out blue chip suburbs like Simsbury and Avon. Connecticut is flinging money at Hartford to make a core area like that but it isn’t remotely close to critical mass yet.
Minneapolis surprised me the first time I was there on business 25+ years ago. I was expecting a white bread and Miracle Whip cultural backwater. It’s a very cosmopolitan place. I was working in the burbs north of the city. That’s like the movie set for Fargo. I found a little boutique hotel on Nicollet Island on the Mississippi downtown and stayed in the city.
If you’re doing the suburban kids, golden retriever, luxury crossover, office drone thing, the blue chip Hartford suburbs are fine. Even with the stiff property taxes, they’re far more affordable than the Boston, NYC, and DC equivalent. You’re not house poor so you can afford a vacation home. It doesn’t align with my interests but it’s a perfectly reasonable place to live with all the amenities.
What? The Big E, the Basketball Hall of Fame, the casino, and the Kielbasa Festival are the pinnacle of New England culture.
The comment about Hartford drivers was accurate. They’re Boston drivers with the aggressiveness but the have NYC horn use.
The most unexpected thing about West Hartford when we landed there four years ago was the big Jewish presence. The grocery stores have a kosher meat counter. You can get a real bagel.
Minneapolis surprised me the first time I was there on business 25+ years ago. I was expecting a white bread and Miracle Whip cultural backwater. It’s a very cosmopolitan place. I was working in the burbs north of the city. That’s like the movie set for Fargo. I found a little boutique hotel on Nicollet Island on the Mississippi downtown and stayed in the city.
Yeah Minneapolis is amazing. Too bad it is -40 in the winter because I love it. Cosmopolitan, polished, fun and really great people. Surprisingly more diverse than I thought. I hope in the future my business trips are there because it was nice blimp to go there instead of New York, New York, Philadelphia, New York, Dallas, New York... 12/10 would recommend if that much cold doesn't bother you in the winter months.
Minneapolis isn’t as cold as it used to be. It’s the fastest warming state due to global warming, but you don’t have to worry about sea level rising and flooding. This past winter they only had one really cold stretch of about 10-14 days. That was it, but yes it was cold, like -5-10. But you’ll find a lot to do indoors and they have skyways and some underground tunnels at the university of Minnesota. I guess it’s no worse than The heat you experience in Austin for months. Having had lived in NJ/Staten Island for 25 years I have to tell you it’s so much nicer in many ways. What you don’t have it’s the old school charm, history, and ocean. These are things I do love, but there are pros and cons to everywhere. I won’t miss waiting in line 2 hours for a ride at 6 flags in NJ. In Mn you can actually enjoy your experience at an amusement park with kids. And the public amenities are unmatched. And Minneapolis is so clean that it almost looks fake coming from NYC. Any transplant will miss good pizza and bagels, although not bad in Mn, other foods I found much better than NJ, Chinese is one. You’d be surprised at the Indian food. It’s better than what I had In Edison NJ, which is the Indian capital of the US! Having said all this, I miss the east coast tremendously, but that is probably because I’m stuck in the south right now.
Minneapolis isn’t as cold as it used to be. It’s the fastest warming state due to global warming, but you don’t have to worry about sea level rising and flooding. This past winter they only had one really cold stretch of about 10-14 days. That was it, but yes it was cold, like -5-10. But you’ll find a lot to do indoors and they have skyways and some underground tunnels at the university of Minnesota. I guess it’s no worse than The heat you experience in Austin for months. Having had lived in NJ/Staten Island for 25 years I have to tell you it’s so much nicer in many ways. What you don’t have it’s the old school charm, history, and ocean. These are things I do love, but there are pros and cons to everywhere. I won’t miss waiting in line 2 hours for a ride at 6 flags in NJ. In Mn you can actually enjoy your experience at an amusement park with kids. And the public amenities are unmatched. And Minneapolis is so clean that it almost looks fake coming from NYC. Any transplant will miss good pizza and bagels, although not bad in Mn, other foods I found much better than NJ, Chinese is one. You’d be surprised at the Indian food. It’s better than what I had In Edison NJ, which is the Indian capital of the US! Having said all this, I miss the east coast tremendously, but that is probably because I’m stuck in the south right now.
From what I heard.. NJ having a larger Indian population surprisingly doesn't have great cuisine in that department. I have yet to try.. but glad you also confirmed that. Chinese is decent in NJ. I know someone who lives in Jersey City and travels by PATH to NYC (With his card) to get dollar slices and chinese food when he can haha. Thats extremely convenient and good use of a path pass.
NJ's biggest flaw IMHO is cleanliness. Even in nice suburbs its a bit dirty or bad quality roads, etc. So when you compare it to Minneapolis, which is like stunning (It really is for those who havent been there... ). NJ is more dense and grided, so it makes sense.
But yes, Boston's biggest drawback is price. The nicest burbs of NJ lke Alpine and Saddle River and Baskin Ridge are all in the 1-3 million dollar range. Which is average price for a top tier suburb. Boston is just insane.. the quality of the housing is far less substantial and they charge wayyy more. Huge win for NJ is price of housing and no tax on your car every year. However, they get it back to you on tolls and property tax. Also, if you are familiar.. Boston is a lot more snobby than NJ lol. All that new tech money is going to their head
Its a draw imho. All three have their pros/cons, I just like poking fun at them. But my biggest complaint about NJ, is I am dropping $21 in tolls a day haha.. but, GSP looks realllly nice.
From what I heard.. NJ having a larger Indian population surprisingly doesn't have great cuisine in that department. I have yet to try.. but glad you also confirmed that. Chinese is decent in NJ. I know someone who lives in Jersey City and travels by PATH to NYC (With his card) to get dollar slices and chinese food when he can haha. Thats extremely convenient and good use of a path pass.
NJ's biggest flaw IMHO is cleanliness. Even in nice suburbs its a bit dirty or bad quality roads, etc. So when you compare it to Minneapolis, which is like stunning (It really is for those who havent been there... ). NJ is more dense and grided, so it makes sense.
But yes, Boston's biggest drawback is price. The nicest burbs of NJ lke Alpine and Saddle River and Baskin Ridge are all in the 1-3 million dollar range. Which is average price for a top tier suburb. Boston is just insane.. the quality of the housing is far less substantial and they charge wayyy more. Huge win for NJ is price of housing and no tax on your car every year. However, they get it back to you on tolls and property tax. Also, if you are familiar.. Boston is a lot more snobby than NJ lol. All that new tech money is going to their head
Its a draw imho. All three have their pros/cons, I just like poking fun at them. But my biggest complaint about NJ, is I am dropping $21 in tolls a day haha.. but, GSP looks realllly nice.
So Tandoori Taylor Ham? LOL
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. Depending on what else you may want, it's a wide open country out there. But to move to HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT? I mean who in the F???? And don't even get me started on the drivers...
