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Old 03-14-2007, 11:42 AM
 
Location: 42°22'55.2"N 71°24'46.8"W
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I am fairly certain this is really, really not true, unless you lived in Mass when you bought your car, but bought it out of state. But living elsewhere, and buying elsewhere, and later moving to Mass with your car would not generally subject you to having to prove you've paid your sales tax on a purchase made well before you lived here.
Actually, I did have to fill out a form that said I swore that I paid the sales tax in the old state (only for new car purchases). It was no big deal though, since I didn't have to actually get proof from the dealership.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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Mass. General Laws refers to this issue under Ch 140 sec 59A which most cities and towns use as a basis for their zoning ordinances. Please consult a Zoning or Real Estate Attorney for proper advice. In some places, houses or buildings were built before Zoning and Habitability laws were created and put in force. So, example your home built in 1926 and your city started Zoning laws in 1940. If, you are the owner of the real estate, you have property rights such as "Peaceful and Quiet Enjoyment" and use of the property without interference. Privacy Rights and enforcement of trespass rights. Some people get Warranty Deeds meaning you get all rights that everyone before you had and noone can take them away. That means your property is what is called as "Grandfathered" Or "Grandfather Clause". Zoning laws can not be applied. If, you are a tenant, you must comply with your lease or renter's agreement and landlord demands within reason. You do have rights too as a renter. The law also, has what is called EX - POST FACTO LAW, meaning once you have rights, they can not be abridged or taken away.
Unfortunately corrupt, over zealous and unethical city officials and police can be a nuisance and seek to fine you and harass you with court proceedings and ABUSE OF POWER. Most cities and towns allow 1 unregistered car on private property with the law reading, that if, a car is "Covered" which is vague and not specified by what or how, or is in an enclosed space, such as a building or garage, it is exempt. An insurance company could argue this point, as some have exclusions on vehicles on home owner policies. Some cities and towns state, if, the vehicle is operable, not junk and not being dismantled, then, it can be exempt, if hidden by a six foot fence. The idea is to have unsightly and junk or abandoned vehicles from causing blight and being public safety hazards, but, with corrupt people and demands on lacking revenue streams, city officials are over doing it and criminally harassing victims. That is why you need to find a good lawyer. Lawyers can be expensive so shop around and ask around to get as many opinions as you can. You can also, complain to your state and Federal Representatives. Turning in plates is not the answer. If, you can only have one car unregistered, you must have the others stored or registered otherwise you can be fined. You must have valid plates and insurance to be registered, as the authorities will find out if, you are not and you have attached or expired plates. Now, as for privacy, Police are not allowed to create Capricious or Spurious acts, and target people at will on private property. The law states, that, if, a neighbor or abutter (a property owner of real estate) makes a complaint which impacts their property, their peace, safety and or value, then, the authorities can act, but, not unless this occurs. IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THE LAW TO BREAK THE LAW, TRESPASS, CRIMINALLY HARASS, GO ON FISHING EXPEDITIONS and MAKE UP UNFOUNDED CLAIMS, ACT WITHOUT WARRANTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND CONFINED AREAS and ILLEGAL TO DEMAND ANY INFORMATION NOT PLAINLY AVAILABLE. NO LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ALLOWED TO TRESPASS ESPECIALLY WHEN POSTED AND PULL OFF TARPS WHICH IS A BREAK AND ENTRY TO A M.V. IT IS ALSO MALICIOUS DAMAGE TO PROPERTY AND VANDALISM. POLICE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER GLOVE BOXES, CLOSED TRUNKS, CLOSED BOXES OR ANYTHING CONCEALED OR OUT OF SIGHT WITHOUT A WARRANT AND WITHOUT EXPRESS CONSENT OF THE OWNER. IT IS CONSIDERED ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE, AN ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE AND ACTIVATES A LEGAL DOCTRINE CALL THE ROOT OF THE POISON TREE meaning anything discovered by improper and illegal means by law enforcement is not admissable in a court of law and therefore, must be dismissed and thrown out. It does not stop them from using the knowledge to try to target you in another way thereafter. You can also refuse to incriminate yourself starting to refuse to give your name and or any information citing the Fifth Amendment, but, they will automatically, say you are guilty and attempt to punish you. Don't think that, all courts are honest and just either, because it is a club of the system against the public and the object is to steal whatever they can from you!
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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In Mass. you must buy insurance, show the stamped insurance card and pay for registration and plates. If, the insurance is cancelled or expired, you normally have to surrender the plates to the registry. The law requires anyone living 30 or more consecutive days as a resident to re register the car at their legal domicile or address within the state. If, you are a legal resident of another state, travelling back at least once a month or living six months out of the year in most places (does not have to be consecutive days.) then, you can keep your registration for that other state. Some cities and towns may hassle you on this fact.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Funkotron, MA
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Unless you have car insurance that covers Ma. and Texas, you have to register your vehicle first to get new car insurance which is a monopoly in Ma.
You have to get insurance first. Then you can register the car. Bring the title to an insrance company, open a policy, and they will stamp a form. You bring that form and the title over to the RMV to get a new MA title, registration, and MA plates. Then you have 7 days to get the car inspected.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Lexington, SC
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I used to hate the vehicle inspections in MA, but what with the pieces of unsafe crap cars I see here in SC (non-inspection state) I say bring back vehicle safety inspections.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:59 PM
 
Location: West Roxbury, MA
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Congrats on moving to MA. You will quickly learn your car is a first class way for the state to skin you out of many, many dollars.

Also know you may have to be able to prove you paid sales tax on it in the old state. Paperwork as a mindless game.

Plus if you ever move from MA, (Anyone doing that is declared Insane automatically) you will have lots of fun with your car again. You must return the plates to MA.
It never happened to me, but I know folks whose plates were stolen after they left Massachusetts. They just told the registry. Dang out-of-state thieves.
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: North of Boston
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Wow, a 6 year old thread brought back from the dead.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:06 PM
 
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Sweet 6 year old thread
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