03-28-2008, 07:24 PM
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OUCH!!!! Folks please, I was born and raised in MA. I was then and still am a very warm, sincere, friendly, person. I still talk to strangers, to smile at another person and wish them well is a more positive feeling than being rude, and other peoples feelings are still important to me. Please do not label all people by the actions of others. I wouldn't do that to anyone.
03-29-2008, 12:55 AM
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As a lifelong Mass resident of Middlesex County, Not surprised that this surf head calls us rude. We are somewhat clannish and I love the quips about Southern Hospitality, the cute little nicknames you get called.
We can be some of the best people around We also take the clan mentality into things such as sports, outsiders often marvel at the camaraderie the Sox bring out in the region from Maine to the good half of CT.
If you think we're rude, ever heard the jokes about NYC? Imagine a CITY with more people than our entire STATE.
Yes, the weather makes us more insular, drive aggressively, and often can't be bothered with silly chit-chat at the packie.
(a bit of NE slang there)
I'd rather live here than California, where everybody "knows" an agent or whatever. The legenday fake L.A. attitude.
03-29-2008, 08:29 AM
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I was raised in FL, and moved to MA in 1995. I noticed this as well, particularly if I spoke to someone of another ethnic background then myself. As a southerner living in the north though, I have noticed that you must earn a New Englander's trust before they will befriend you. You do this by being well-mannered, considerate, and thoughtful. Don't talk before you think. Once you have their trust, however, they will be just as friendly and talkative as anyone else.
That said, I do miss the south and plan on moving back home within the next year. This is because I live in Springfield (I can't afford to live anywhere else in MA), and the schools are terrible here.
03-29-2008, 09:35 AM
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As a transplanted Californian, I have spoken here before of my impressions of the people I personally have met, encountered, stood in line next to, asked for directions from, spoken to on the phone, served my family in restaurants, etc. and have yet to meet these "rude" people that have been complained about so much on this thread. I wonder why this is? I lived in Lexington,Ma. for a year and now Concord and still my opinion has not wavered. I guess I go to the right places at the right time when the "rude" folks are being cold and snobby elsewhere? Just lucky or does it have to do with how you come off to others? Since being here only four months this go round, I have been invited to family dinners of people I just met, introduced to parents, have a nice day being said everywhere and meant it, which never happened in California. Can't imagine ever moving back to Ca. especially just for the weather!
03-29-2008, 10:25 AM
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As a transplanted Californian, I have spoken here before of my impressions of the people I personally have met, encountered, stood in line next to, asked for directions from, spoken to on the phone, served my family in restaurants, etc. and have yet to meet these "rude" people that have been complained about so much on this thread. I wonder why this is? I lived in Lexington,Ma. for a year and now Concord and still my opinion has not wavered. I guess I go to the right places at the right time when the "rude" folks are being cold and snobby elsewhere? Just lucky or does it have to do with how you come off to others? Since being here only four months this go round, I have been invited to family dinners of people I just met, introduced to parents, have a nice day being said everywhere and meant it, which never happened in California. Can't imagine ever moving back to Ca. especially just for the weather!
The rumor is that the friendly folks you've met have not been New Englanders. In fact, I heard tell that they steer clear when they see a Californian. I think you must have encountered transplanted southerners.
03-29-2008, 10:30 AM
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And they can tell a Californian how?
Nope...born and bred in Ma. accent and all (not all, all) My whole family is originally from the East Coast so I guess I assimilate well
03-29-2008, 10:39 AM
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And they can tell a Californian how?
Nope...born and bred in Ma. accent and all (not all, all) My whole family is originally from the East Coast so I guess I assimilate well
Yeah, I've never understood this "New Englanders are rude/unfriendly, etc." thing. I've never found that to be the case, and I've lived here 25 years. Originally from Texas, and when I go back for visits to family, I feel practically suffocated by all that "friendliness." Good lord.
03-29-2008, 01:27 PM
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Don't confused "cold" with reserved. Just because someone isn't giggling and bubbling and babbling and getting in-your-face with every detail of their personal life doesn't mean they're not friendly. It never seems to occur to the in-your-face babbler that THEY are the one being rude.
Perception isn't necessarily reality. Don't go around judging everyone else until you know them, and more importantly, don't lump groups of people together and label them as being this or that, because everyone's different.
I'm a native New Englander and I cringe at the things some other natives have written in this thread, attempting to describe the entire region in their own terms and in their own prejudiced views. Clannishness and standoffishness is not practiced by people with good manners. Just get to know people, make an effort to be as friendly and helpful and welcoming to them as you want them to be to you, and you'll find friends anywhere.
Well said...thank you!
03-29-2008, 03:40 PM
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Well said...thank you!
As a past resident of MA, I totally agree with crazyworld and Boomerang. I have never lived among such dignified - and, not is a haughty sense - and giving community of people. They are self-disciplined, hard-working, and willing to share whatever they have with those less fortunate.
I applaud the people of Massachusetts. MA has much to be proud of in their citizenry. Shame of those who narrow-mindedly say otherwise!
(I owe you one, crazyworld!!
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03-29-2008, 03:50 PM
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I was raised in FL, and moved to MA in 1995. I noticed this as well, particularly if I spoke to someone of another ethnic background then myself. As a southerner living in the north though, I have noticed that you must earn a New Englander's trust before they will befriend you. You do this by being well-mannered, considerate, and thoughtful. Don't talk before you think. Once you have their trust, however, they will be just as friendly and talkative as anyone else.
That said, I do miss the south and plan on moving back home within the next year. This is because I live in Springfield (I can't afford to live anywhere else in MA), and the schools are terrible here.
(Try Wilbraham - best schools going, south-bound!
)
Something that we all tend to forget is that people are people everywhere. You will have the snoots, the givers, the takers, the snubbers, the friendly-no-matter-how-gloomy-the-days folk.
The world is made up of individuals with individual personalities. Environment can turn a normally laid back person into a tense, impatient person, but it has little to do whether they were born and raised in the South, North, Midwest, or CA, of all places!!
I think that it is a mistake and an injustice when people judge a whole region by the actions of the one Floridian they know or the one guy they work with who was born in TN. New Yorkers are always getting ragged on. Are they all ne'er-do-wells in NYC? I seriously doubt it!!
Let's give peace a chance. Let's give our neighbors from Somewhere, USA a chance. There are good people from everywhere, even MA!
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People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)