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I understand that Coakley ran a bad campaign, and that she wasn't the best candidate to begin with. But do you not realize that you single handedly killed the health care reform? That you only re-amped the party of "no?" That Obama won't be able to do half the things you voted him in for?
I understand that Coakley ran a bad campaign, and that she wasn't the best candidate to begin with. But do you not realize that you single handedly killed the health care reform? That you only re-amped the party of "no?" That Obama won't be able to do half the things you voted him in for?
Do YOU understand that the current proposed health care bill is crap. We all want health care reform, but not this proposed version of it. Again, we really need to figure out how to get the overall cost of health care down. It's not enough just for everyone to have the health insurance coverage to pay for it... or rather for the individual not to have to pay for high health care costs. If insurance companies have to cover individuals with high medical bills (as in bills of 100's of thousands of dollars) it's only going to cost the rest of us healthy people more in insurance premiums in the long run. So we also need to reward all people who live healthy and safe lifestyles, not just protecting those that are sickly and with chronic expensive health care issues.
I'd much rather support a health care bill that just funds to those who the insurance companies don't want to offer coverage to.
Also, as a nation, we need to look at the ethics of what sorts of expensive medical treatments that individuals are minimally entitled to. As medical technologies advance, there are more treatments for every ailment, but those treatments are NOT cheap due to how much it cost to develop the treatments... so at what point are the insurance companies allowed to say no and deny paying for those expensive treatments and medicines to their insured? Insurance companies are businesses designed to make profit. No one ever objects to the house odds at those fancy blingy casinos in Las Vegas, so why are we coming down so hard on insurances companies who are also gambling that their insured are going to stay health? Every gambler in Las Vegas that loses at the casino is helping to pay for their high electric bills, overhead and adding to their profit line. And casinos are allowed to bar individuals that are too good at winning... so casinos and insurance companies have the same ways of doing business...
Anyway, Obama is inexperienced and doesn't actually know what he is doing. And I feel much better knowing that each bill has to have bi-opartisan input and can't go so swiftly to Obama's desk to be signed into law. I don't trust Obama's vision for our country. The Obama honeymoon is over.
And the MA health care system is not very good... you really don't want it in your state.
Do YOU understand that the current proposed health care bill is crap. We all want health care reform, but not this proposed version of it. Again, we really need to figure out how to get the overall cost of health care down. It's not enough just for everyone to have the health insurance coverage to pay for it... or rather for the individual not to have to pay for high health care costs. If insurance companies have to cover individuals with high medical bills (as in bills of 100's of thousands of dollars) it's only going to cost the rest of us healthy people more in insurance premiums in the long run. So we also need to reward all people who live healthy and safe lifestyles, not just protecting those that are sickly and with chronic expensive health care issues.
I'd much rather support a health care bill that just funds to those who the insurance companies don't want to offer coverage to.
Also, as a nation, we need to look at the ethics of what sorts of expensive medical treatments that individuals are minimally entitled to. As medical technologies advance, there are more treatments for every ailment, but those treatments are NOT cheap due to how much it cost to develop the treatments... so at what point are the insurance companies allowed to say no and deny paying for those expensive treatments and medicines to their insured? Insurance companies are businesses designed to make profit. No one ever objects to the house odds at those fancy blingy casinos in Las Vegas, so why are we coming down so hard on insurances companies who are also gambling that their insured are going to stay health? Every gambler in Las Vegas that loses at the casino is helping to pay for their high electric bills, overhead and adding to their profit line. And casinos are allowed to bar individuals that are too good at winning... so casinos and insurance companies have the same ways of doing business...
Anyway, Obama is inexperienced and doesn't actually know what he is doing. And I feel much better knowing that each bill has to have bi-opartisan input and can't go so swiftly to Obama's desk to be signed into law. I don't trust Obama's vision for our country. The Obama honeymoon is over.
And the MA health care system is not very good... you really don't want it in your state.
Okay, can I have a response from someone who doesn't normally vote Republican?
Okay, can I have a response from someone who doesn't normally vote Republican?
You're wrong about me. I am a registered Independent that normally votes Democrat.
I voted for Bill Clinton both times, then against Bush twice. Last year, I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries (and she won over Obama in the primaries, I think that she got 64% of the vote)... but in the presidential elections I voted for McCain.
I just don't trust Obama's vision for our country. Ted Kennedy spent all his career trying to change our health care system and failed. Hillary Clinton tried while her husband was in office and failed. So why on earth would Obama think that he could do it in one year?
The only person at work that is for the current national health care being passed is a recently graduated college student who was out of work for several months... somehow he gets his MA health insurance for free. And I think that there is something terrible wrong with that young able-bodied man getting free health insurance coverage. And some of the full time staff run to the unemployment office every time we have a slow work week. Unbelievable! And I am tired of the attitude that the poor deserve free services from the government and that the evil rich have to foot the bill for it. Why are we rewarding lazy slackers and incompetents? Of the chronically unemployed and those on welfare, we should ship them off to a third world country for a few months as Peace Corps type workers... and they can see how great they have it in this country. Maybe their visits will inspire them to apply themselves when they are once back home.
Well twiggy, how about this take on the situation... we've lived without health care reform so far, so why can't we wait another year in order to design a really decent health care reform bill to sign into law. Why the rush to sign a defective bill into law just for the sake of having a change in the system.
And with the current proposed national health care bill, I think that you'd be surprised to find that it doesn't mean insurance is going to pay for every high expense. That bill is not going to guarantee high quality health treatment for every major medical crisis. Stop being so naive about what this current proposed health care bill is going to do for the uninsured or the under-insured.
Again, my concern is NOT signing the wrong version of a national health care bill into law.
Most Americans have health insurance. I never clearly understood or was explained what health care reform would do for my family. We have a high deductible plan with Aetna that accomplishes what my family of 4 needs. We pay $640/mo.
I can't support something I don't understand or which has a potential impact I can't assess. It doesn't matter which party proposes it or what it is. If I don't understand it, I don't want it. I understand what I have now, I can afford it, and it serves my needs.
BTW I would much rather our government just pay for those operations and expensive medical treatments of those Americans not covered by health insurance, than send aid to Haiti and pay for 45,000 Haitian earthquake victims to relocate to Florida. Why are we quicker to aid the suffering overseas before we help our own?
We can't help everyone, and we should help American citizens before helping illegal aliens and foreigners.
Okay, can I have a response from someone who doesn't normally vote Republican?
How about following the rules of the thread and just saying thank you to the voters of Massachusetts & leaving the politics & complaining aside ?
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Massachusetts, what were you thinking?
