Down with crime: Not reporting progress is a crime. (Memphis: house, schools)

[ShelbyCop]

Originally Posted by weisenheist

...but it's odd that when the crime figures reported by accepted and reliable standards they are immediately considered 'highly inflated', 'misleading', or provided by accepted sources (e.g.FBI, et al) that 'must have' some nefarious intent concerning Memphis, TN alone...

The arguement about the FBI statistics not being completely accurate is a legitimate one. Different cities have different classifications of crimes they report. Some cities will call a home burglary a "vandalism" if nothing was taken, even though they entered the house. Add these subtle differences across the different types of crime, and you have inaccurate statistics. Submitting stats to the FBI is also optional, and not all crimes have to be reported.
I have heard of supervisors at MPD asking officers to classify burglary as a "vandalism" and "theft of property", two smaller offenses instead of the more serious one, in order to alter crime statistics. I can't guarantee that is true.

[(901)]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ryall

The "Miserables" has become a local term for the people who hype fear and smut media. It was made popular by John Calipari. He was disgusted by people smearing such a great city with so much character & potential. Despite his recruting ethics, I certainly agree. Keep your cookies.

Yea, that guy is a cheat. We are better off without him

Originally Posted by ShelbyCop

The arguement about the FBI statistics not being completely accurate is a legitimate one. Different cities have different classifications of crimes they report. Some cities will call a home burglary a "vandalism" if nothing was taken, even though they entered the house. Add these subtle differences across the different types of crime, and you have inaccurate statistics. Submitting stats to the FBI is also optional, and not all crimes have to be reported.
I have heard of supervisors at MPD asking officers to classify burglary as a "vandalism" and "theft of property", two smaller offenses instead of the more serious one, in order to alter crime statistics. I can't guarantee that is true.

You just gotta know AC Wharton has instructed Godwin to get these numbers down. Any way that in nescecary

[Kabluey]

Originally Posted by ShelbyCop

The arguement about the FBI statistics not being completely accurate is a legitimate one. Different cities have different classifications of crimes they report. Some cities will call a home burglary a "vandalism" if nothing was taken, even though they entered the house. Add these subtle differences across the different types of crime, and you have inaccurate statistics. Submitting stats to the FBI is also optional, and not all crimes have to be reported.
I have heard of supervisors at MPD asking officers to classify burglary as a "vandalism" and "theft of property", two smaller offenses instead of the more serious one, in order to alter crime statistics. I can't guarantee that is true.

I remember an article, I'll try to find it, that indicated MPD overreports crimes. Which is a good thing, imo. Better to overreport and face the scrutiny and criticism than underreporting and sugarcoating.

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Originally Posted by Kabluey

I remember an article, I'll try to find it, that indicated MPD overreports crimes. Which is a good thing, imo. Better to overreport and face the scrutiny and criticism than underreporting and sugarcoating.

Not when your trying to convince Fortune 500 companys to relocate here

[thenuegeye]

If Calipari loved the city so much he wouldn't have screwed us over. So did that boy Derrick Rose. But that's what most all outsider, opportunists do to Memphis. We always seem to welcome it too.

[thenuegeye]

As for crime being down, I know MPD reclassifies certain types of crimes now. But watching the news gives a different impression. Someone is always murdered or shot. Know what's funny? People always say the local news is negative. What if they never reported any murders? Would you feel safer even though you were uninformed? Padding numbers won't make the city any better. Our reputation is already damaged. We should use NYC as an example. But crime is big business for Memphis. Keeps people employed with government jobs. You can't give criminals serious time. Especially when most of them are repeat offenders.

[Johnny Ryall]

So much for Forbes, CQ and others that sell this garbage to unknowing people, especially the Miserables.

The FBI rejects the rankings, saying on its Web site: "These rough rankings provide no insight into the numerous variables that mold crime in a particular town, city, county, state or region. Consequently, they lead to simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions adversely affecting communities and residents."

[Cosmicstargoat]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ryall

So much for Forbes, CQ and others that sell this garbage to unknowing people, especially the Miserables.

The FBI rejects the rankings, saying on its Web site: "These rough rankings provide no insight into the numerous variables that mold crime in a particular town, city, county, state or region. Consequently, they lead to simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions adversely affecting communities and residents."

You are such a Kool-Aid drinker. What grade do you give this city over that past 20 years with regard to crime, the MCS, the integrity and effectiveness of the elected city officials, the property values, the economic base and every other yardstick that is important to making a city a good place to live.

What grade giveth thou?

[westtnman]

Originally Posted by Cosmicstargoat

You are such a Kool-Aid drinker. What grade do you give this city over that past 20 years with regard to crime, the MCS, the integrity and effectiveness of the elected city officials, the property values, the economic base and every other yardstick that is important to making a city a good place to live.

What grade giveth thou?

I think you're both right. The discrepency of the data between cities is widely known. However, that does not dismiss the fact that Memphis has crime and other problems. All these problems are interconnected.

There are other things that make a city a good place to live including family, social outlets, and careers. I do think that the ones "goat" named are reasonably good benchmarks overall for a city and Memphis does grade low on most of these.

[Johnny Ryall]

Originally Posted by Cosmicstargoat

What grade giveth thou?

"simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions"

"simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions"

"simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions"...