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Old 09-15-2010, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Cartersville, GA
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What criteria does one use??

How about credibility, education, peer reviewed studies, scientific plausibility??

Mercola is a quack who is just interested in selling his products...his website is absolute nonsense...
FDA Orders Dr. Joseph Mercola to Stop Illegal Claims

Whaleto??? seriously....the quintessential conspiracy nonsense site...

Some of the claims from this site include:

"The site features the full text of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a notorious anti-Semitic forgery in which vaccinations are viewed as an essential element of a dastardly Jewish plot"

neurodiversity weblog: A Whale of an Expert

The rest of your "links" come from this conspiracy theory blogger
Vaccines Often The Cause of "Multiple Sclerosis & Other DEMYELINATING Diseases" - Share The Wealth

The most ridiculous collection of lies and fantasies I have ever seen....

The quotes are fabrications....nowhere in Dr Hesselinks description of demyelinating diseases are vaccines mentioned...

The "alleged" quotes from Harrison's Textbook don't exist...I have the book...they aren't in there...unbelievable...

In summary your "defense" is laughable.....your only defense lies in ridiculous conspiracy websites....
Wow, Nice work! I smelled a rat when I read that post, but there is nothing like a good ole empirical bashing.

I was going to see what the Church of Scientology has to say about this matter, but I need to re-arrange the lint in my belly button ATM.

Last edited by ToucheGA; 09-15-2010 at 02:41 PM.. Reason: Forgot to mention the Word of Cruise

 
Old 09-16-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Yep, good news on the anti-vaccination front!

Australia warning over deadly US whooping cough outbreak

Quote:
Australia Thursday warned travellers to the United States to watch out for a whooping cough outbreak which has claimed the lives of several babies.

The foreign affairs department said a number of American states had been hit by the disease including California, where local reports say nine babies have died.

Hopefully everyone will man up, stop vaccinations that kill one out of one hundred thousand and give whooping cough, along with Polio and measles, a fighting chance!
//sarcasm off
 
Old 09-16-2010, 10:13 AM
 
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Yep, good news on the anti-vaccination front!

Australia warning over deadly US whooping cough outbreak




Hopefully everyone will man up, stop vaccinations that kill one out of one hundred thousand and give whooping cough, along with Polio and measles, a fighting chance!
//sarcasm off
It's also important to note that researchers in Australia have noted significant changes in 2 strains of pertussis leading them to believe that there has been a bacterial mutation.
Whooping Cough Bacteria Has Mutated, Vaccines No Longer Effective | Strollerderby | Babble Australia (http://www.babble.com.au/2010/02/11/whooping-cough-bacteria-has-mutated-vaccines-no-longer-effective/ - broken link)
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1225828959714
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225828831142

So take precautions because even if you and your children are vaccinated, you may not be protected.
 
Old 09-17-2010, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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bluedevil, you didn't comment on the Chronological History.
Did you read it, I'd like to know what you thought about that.

1990 Pediatric neurologist Dr. John H. Menkes, professor emeritus at UCLA, reports on 46 children experiencing neurological adverse reaction within 72 hours of a DPT shot. Over 87% of the children reacted with a seizure, 2 children died and most surviving children became retarded, with 72% having uncontrollable seizure disorders.

Do you have a problem with Dr. Menkes?

1985 The Assistant Secretary of Health, Edward Brandt, Jr.,M.D, testifies before a Senate Committee, "every year 35,000 children suffer neurological complications because of DPT vaccine." (May 3, 1985).

How about Dr. Brandt?

The subject of this thread is apparently Not the First.
Chronological History of Health 1978 - 1994
1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. Administered by the US Claims Court in Washington, DC, which does recognize an association between the DPT shot and infantile spasms. The court awarded $2 million to a body in 1989 relative to a reaction to DPT vaccine.
 
Old 09-17-2010, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by OhZone View Post
bluedevil, you didn't comment on the Chronological History.
Did you read it, I'd like to know what you thought about that.

1990 Pediatric neurologist Dr. John H. Menkes, professor emeritus at UCLA, reports on 46 children experiencing neurological adverse reaction within 72 hours of a DPT shot. Over 87% of the children reacted with a seizure, 2 children died and most surviving children became retarded, with 72% having uncontrollable seizure disorders.

Do you have a problem with Dr. Menkes?

1985 The Assistant Secretary of Health, Edward Brandt, Jr.,M.D, testifies before a Senate Committee, "every year 35,000 children suffer neurological complications because of DPT vaccine." (May 3, 1985).

How about Dr. Brandt?

The subject of this thread is apparently Not the First.
Chronological History of Health 1978 - 1994
1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. Administered by the US Claims Court in Washington, DC, which does recognize an association between the DPT shot and infantile spasms. The court awarded $2 million to a body in 1989 relative to a reaction to DPT vaccine.

From the CDC : Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Some Misconceptions

The Chronological History of Health 1978 - 1994 appears to be another conspiracy theory rant with no way to check references.

I think I'll go with the CDC info.
 
Old 09-20-2010, 05:27 PM
 
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I think I'll go with the CDC info.
Yeah, about as reliable as the back of a cracker jack box. Same crap as the FDA, total liars.

CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden back in October 2009:
Center For Diease Control Says That H1N1 Deaths In The U.S. More Than 1,000 So Far - cbs2chicago.com (http://cbs2chicago.com/national/cdc.swine.flu.2.1268240.html - broken link)

"Many millions" of Americans have had swine flu so far, according to an estimate he gave at a Friday press conference. The government doesn't test everyone to confirm swine flu so it doesn't have an exact count.

2009 flu pandemic by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to wikipedia, only 113,690 cases of H1N1 have been confirmed for the 2009/2010 season in America. The CDC also claims that they don't spread fear based propaganda for pharma profits.
 
Old 09-20-2010, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by Jason28 View Post
Yeah, about as reliable as the back of a cracker jack box. Same crap as the FDA, total liars.

CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden back in October 2009:
Center For Diease Control Says That H1N1 Deaths In The U.S. More Than 1,000 So Far - cbs2chicago.com (http://cbs2chicago.com/national/cdc.swine.flu.2.1268240.html - broken link)

"Many millions" of Americans have had swine flu so far, according to an estimate he gave at a Friday press conference. The government doesn't test everyone to confirm swine flu so it doesn't have an exact count.

2009 flu pandemic by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to wikipedia, only 113,690 cases of H1N1 have been confirmed for the 2009/2010 season in America. The CDC also claims that they don't spread fear based propaganda for pharma profits.

I do not understand your point.
 
Old 09-20-2010, 06:22 PM
 
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I do not understand your point.
The director of the CDC lied.
 
Old 09-20-2010, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by Jason28 View Post
The director of the CDC lied.

About what?
 
Old 09-20-2010, 08:16 PM
 
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About what?
The director of the CDC claimed millions of Americans had swine flu, when in reality, only a little over 100,000 actual cases were confirmed. How is that not lying?
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