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Old 05-30-2012, 12:43 AM
 
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I wasn't sure what forum to post this in, but since the goal is to achieve mental wellbeing, this seemed as good as any.

I've dabbled in different kinds of meditation over the years as an extension of my yoga practice but have never been able to stick with it long enough to see any tangible results.

TM is endorsed by a number of celebrities (Howard Stern, David Lynch, Ellen DeGeneres, Clint Eastwood, Jerry Seinfeld, etc.) & I have heard about the town in Iowa filled with TM practitioners. But I haven't been able to figure out how it differs from other forms of meditation & why it's so expensive to learn...$1500 for adults. I've visited the official TM website before and I get that there's something about the technique that requires in-person instruction but the price still seems exorbitant.

Has anyone here learned the technique and is it really worth it? What results have you seen and did you try other (cheaper) types of meditation first?
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:12 PM
 
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I took a community yoga class for a reasonable price and felt like it did a lot for me. I got a job and could no longer attend that particular class because of my schedule.

A new yoga studio opened up near my home. I went to visit. The price was ridiculously high in my opinon. My think is, it shouldn't be so expensive to achieve health and well being. And, if a person is so well balanced why do they need to make a fortune to teach others to acheive the same?

I understand it costs money to run a business, but I have to be sceptical of people who claim to have found "inner peace" and health but can't share this information with others for a reasonable price.
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:00 PM
 
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A true TM yogi/teacher would not be concerned with material wealth. I would be wary of anyone charging $1500 (is that a session or a course?).

I can't speak of TM, but I think meditation itself is probably helpful. Just the process of clearing your mind and being in a state of restful peace with oneself and oneness with your surroundings.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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I remember about 30 or 40 years ago(?boy do I sound old!!) that TM was quite popular. My mother did it for several years and it was extremely beneficial to her. I remember at the time it was so prevalent, and she used to comment that all the programs were free(She even received a monthly magazine I believe that was also free)... and she couldnt understand how they were able to do it. I have thought about it from time to time, but never did try it. I am amazed tht it is so pricey. I would look a bit more and see if you can at least find something at amuch lower cost. The fact that it used to be free and is now$1500 really makes me wonder. But again, I do know it was very helpful and we all noticed a difference when she did it and when she stopped. (she did it for several years, way back when). I may just try now to look into it again and if I see something more reasonable price wise will definitely post back.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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A true TM yogi/teacher would not be concerned with material wealth. I would be wary of anyone charging $1500 (is that a session or a course?).
That is the going rate for the official course.

TM course tuition

There are 7 steps to the course which may be spread out over a period of time but looks like it adds up to no more than 6 hours altogether. Well, they do say there is a "free lifetime follow-up program":

Learn the Transcendental Meditation Technique

Crazy, right? A person could go to several yoga workshops (which will typically include some meditation practice) with some of the best teachers in the country for less than that.

I wish I could find some of those materials from the 70s that were given out free...just because I'm really curious as to what makes TM different.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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I wasn't sure what forum to post this in, but since the goal is to achieve mental wellbeing, this seemed as good as any.

I've dabbled in different kinds of meditation over the years as an extension of my yoga practice but have never been able to stick with it long enough to see any tangible results.

TM is endorsed by a number of celebrities (Howard Stern, David Lynch, Ellen DeGeneres, Clint Eastwood, Jerry Seinfeld, etc.) & I have heard about the town in Iowa filled with TM practitioners. But I haven't been able to figure out how it differs from other forms of meditation & why it's so expensive to learn...$1500 for adults. I've visited the official TM website before and I get that there's something about the technique that requires in-person instruction but the price still seems exorbitant.

Has anyone here learned the technique and is it really worth it? What results have you seen and did you try other (cheaper) types of meditation first?
They charge a lot in part because they guarantee results. But a German study found that many TM-ers experienced strong adverse effects over time.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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Please do not waste your money on TM. I took TM in the 80s. Then I went on to other Hindu groups and then to Buddhism. TM is the same as that taught in other Hindu groups, and it is free there. I find that Zen Buddhism meditation to be the best, such as that taught by Thich Nhat Hanh and Mindfulness Meditation. They are free.

TM people have had the most problems in regards to ending up with psychological damage as well. Here is a link:

Falling Down the TM Rabbit Hole, How TM Really Works, a Critical Opinion

This website is from an exTMer.

Here is another website with information on dangers of meditation:

DowntheCrookedPath: Dangers of Meditation-- Correspond to Hellish States

If I were going to meditate again, I would stick with Buddhist.
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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Meditation of any sort truly works. Doesn't have to be TM or any other specific style of meditation.

Meditation generally consists of simply concentrating on a sound, a very simple word (that can be a religious term or name), or keeping the mind blank (if you can manage that). Listening to gentle music while doing it helps a lot (I find that classical music doesn't help me, because it's very "heady" music, so I use meditation music). It's important to guide the mind away from worries when it wanders off (sort-of like lassoing a pony and bringing him back, I guess).

This can be done for 5 minutes several times a day (or more, there's no harm).

It's hard for me to get around to it, but the more I do it, the more I do it, and the less I do it, the less I do it. I try to do it upon waking.

End result of doing it? I'm relaxed, more logical, have a better memory, and can handle stress better.
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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Certain forms of meditation can cause bad reactions in some people (as Mattie Jo mentioned above). I've never dabbled in Kundalini Yoga, but TM made my anxiety worse. It didn't help the insomnia I had at the time either. That's not to say it doesn't work with some people. I've just found that TM affects different people in different ways.

I have never had problems with any form of Buddhist meditation. Mindfulness meditation is my favorite. The only negative side effect that I've experienced from MM is 3-5 hour sleep if I meditate in the evening (so I only meditate in the morning). Mind you, when that's happened, I wake up with no drowsiness at all, even if it's like 1:00 in the morning. I like getting my 7-8 hours though.


Edit: The actual TM technique is not unique. It's just a form of Hindu mantra meditation. I don't think the mantras are original either.
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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Thank you to all that replied. I think my curiosity is satisfied now!
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