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Old 06-16-2012, 10:23 PM
 
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Im currently taking Bupropion 150mg for ADD and depression,even though according to my doctors report says "Depression, Unspecified [311A] (Chronic)" Which I dont know what it means but it has to be some type of depression I guess, because ive been experiencing depression symptoms for a while now.
My other problems is that I have social anxiety symptoms and have a mild expressive/receptive language disorder.

Anyways
To be honest Ive been taking my Bupropion since March of this year and I really dont think its helping my ADD symptoms and it has help with my depression symptoms a little but its still there.

I dont know if I have depression but Im 21 and at age 14, 15 I was a little bit over 200 pounds 210 to be exact I was very down on myself, I didnt like myself at all myself, my familys strict, manipulating, controlling, cultish religious background, my grades in high school and how I learned and also my sexuality!

At that age when I thought about when I would loose weight that I would be great and have high confidence and self esteem!

Long story short as of right now Im 158 pounds and I still feel the same as I did at age 15!

I dont know if I depression because Im not sad and crying but
I still have Low Self Esteem, Apathetic and feeling numb still, lost of interest however one interest of mine (TV/Film Production) keeps going up and down, what brings me up is if I go to the movie theater it makes me happy to see movies but then usually I go back down and the passion isnt their anymore! I still have low confidence too. Low energy and isolation outside of work, I feel like I dont have any opinions, its sucks, and negative thoughts to myself, I still feel like I cant do anything right my sleep is still off, my appetite is still off too.

I dont think I have a eating disorder but I dont eat alot and when I do eat I eat junk food through out the day if I get hungry, plus I dont want to be fat again so its a good thing I dont eat alot! If you can understand!
Its almost 5pm and I only had a glass of milk and muffins, but I might get me something to eat for dinner, it feels like im hungry but Im not starving! Its confusing I cant help it!

For my sleep I cant remember the last time I slept all the way through the night its been months, probably a couple of years, Im serious I always wake up at night or would toss and turn.


Whats very annoying is that in my freshman year I had my life planned out and what I wanted to do in the future and now I dont see me in the future Im just taking it a day out at a time, I dont know what Im going to do with my life.

I also feel down that I wont meet a guy either to have as a boyfriend because gay guys really want their partners to be confident like they are gay men dont want to be with a negative person and Im negative to myself but I cant help it!

If I think something positive I feel like Im kidding myself and that I seriously dont believe it. Yet I find myself a hypocrite because when I see someone down I try to cheer them up, but for me Im not doing that for myself, but you would never know about me because Im always smiling all the time!


Im going to the doctor again to see my behavioral doctor a follow up on the medication!
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:58 AM
 
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If your doctor says you have depression then likely you have depression. It's good you are going back. You can then ask them the question about your medication and depression diagnosis.
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Old 06-17-2012, 05:13 AM
 
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Depression is the number one affliction in this Country. There are three types, first two are caused by some dramatic event, they are often short lived with the right Dr. And the right mix of drugs. What you are taking often helps, sometimes however many people need stronger meds than that.
The third type of depression will be with you all your life, and it's the hardest to get under control. The mind is a complex organ, no one can "cure themselves " We all need professional help. I know, I suffer from the third type, and always will. With the proper mix of medication a person can live a close to normal life. Stay connected with your professional, he or she is your lifeline for getting your depression under control.
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:24 AM
 
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Depression is the number one affliction in this Country. There are three types, first two are caused by some dramatic event, they are often short lived with the right Dr. And the right mix of drugs. What you are taking often helps, sometimes however many people need stronger meds than that.
The third type of depression will be with you all your life, and it's the hardest to get under control. The mind is a complex organ, no one can "cure themselves " We all need professional help. I know, I suffer from the third type, and always will. With the proper mix of medication a person can live a close to normal life. Stay connected with your professional, he or she is your lifeline for getting your depression under control.
The third type always comes back though? I have the third type too and have had on and off depression for years (chronic). I think I'm over it now, feeling much better, and was hoping for a "cure"...but what you are saying is there never is a cure?
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:36 AM
 
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Im currently taking Bupropion 150mg for ADD and depression,even though according to my doctors report says "Depression, Unspecified [311A] (Chronic)" Which I dont know what it means but it has to be some type of depression I guess, because ive been experiencing depression symptoms for a while now.My other problems is that I have social anxiety symptoms and have a mild expressive/receptive language disorder.
Anyways
To be honest Ive been taking my Bupropion since March of this year and I really dont think its helping my ADD symptoms and it has help with my depression symptoms a little but its still there.
I dont know if I have depression but Im 21 and at age 14, 15 I was a little bit over 200 pounds 210 to be exact I was very down on myself, I didnt like myself at all myself, my familys strict, manipulating, controlling, cultish religious background, my grades in high school and how I learned and also my sexuality!
At that age when I thought about when I would loose weight that I would be great and have high confidence and self esteem!
Long story short as of right now Im 158 pounds and I still feel the same as I did at age 15!
I dont know if I depression because Im not sad and crying but
I still have Low Self Esteem, Apathetic and feeling numb still, lost of interest however one interest of mine (TV/Film Production) keeps going up and down, what brings me up is if I go to the movie theater it makes me happy to see movies but then usually I go back down and the passion isnt their anymore! I still have low confidence too. Low energy and isolation outside of work, I feel like I dont have any opinions, its sucks, and negative thoughts to myself, I still feel like I cant do anything right my sleep is still off, my appetite is still off too.
I dont think I have a eating disorder but I dont eat alot and when I do eat I eat junk food through out the day if I get hungry, plus I dont want to be fat again so its a good thing I dont eat alot! If you can understand!Its almost 5pm and I only had a glass of milk and muffins, but I might get me something to eat for dinner, it feels like im hungry but Im not starving! Its confusing I cant help it!
For my sleep I cant remember the last time I slept all the way through the night its been months, probably a couple of years, Im serious I always wake up at night or would toss and turn.
Whats very annoying is that in my freshman year I had my life planned out and what I wanted to do in the future and now I dont see me in the future Im just taking it a day out at a time, I dont know what Im going to do with my life.I also feel down that I wont meet a guy either to have as a boyfriend because gay guys really want their partners to be confident like they are gay men dont want to be with a negative person and Im negative to myself but I cant help it!
If I think something positive I feel like Im kidding myself and that I seriously dont believe it. Yet I find myself a hypocrite because when I see someone down I try to cheer them up, but for me Im not doing that for myself, but you would never know about me because Im always smiling all the time!
Im going to the doctor again to see my behavioral doctor a follow up on the medication!
I think you are making a positive move by going back to your behavorial doctor. First thing you should talk to him about is perhaps a medication change. Could be that this medication you have been on for your ADD is not working properly and could be the cause of your strange appetite habit. I wouldn't blame anything psychological on the appetite change, sounds more like a medications issue.
Take some time to also think about if you are having issues with being gay. Not such a big deal now a days to be gay but you may be struggling with that too. Might be helpful to talk that out with your behavioral doctor and find a way to channel your stress with this like working with young men who are having issues being gay.
What makes me think it could be your medicine making you behave so hot and cold is that you do say that you do smile and try to cheer other folks up. I am not gay but was super heavy at one time and would always try to cheer other heavy folks up while I struggled with my own weight issues. I am losing now, kinda stuck in one place for the time being but am still working with other folks who have weight issues.
Learn to accept who you are and why you are the way your are and understand that now a days no one really cares how you choose to live..we are slowly becoming a people who enjoy the company of other people because they are good and kind..like you are. Good luck with this and for real...get the medicine changed!!
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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The third type always comes back though? I have the third type too and have had on and off depression for years (chronic). I think I'm over it now, feeling much better, and was hoping for a "cure"...but what you are saying is there never is a cure?
The realization came to me as a shock also.Not being a medical person I must be careful in what I say....everyone is different,no magic bullet, only time and age will change your condition.The main message I wanted to get across was we are all different. There are three compounds that effect to mind naturally. Its the mix of drugs and therapy ( More the meds). that will help the most in getting the balance of these three compounds back on track.
To answer your questions directly I have to say, in most cases your condition will be with you all your life. But remember, depression can raise its ugly head different ways and at different times. Thats why depression is the most common affliction there is. There is no "cure". If you think you are " over it now" ,then that's a good thing most likely you are. Being young, you could go many years with little or no symptoms of depression. ( Remember we all are a little nuts from time to time , I have yet to meet anyone who is totally in control all the time and about all things). Yes what I am saying is there is no cure for depression. If there was, it would be a little scary to say the lest as one size does not fit all. Such a " fix" would come under the areas of mind control and or altering reality.You don't want to even think there is. So many people have tried to hide there problems with booze, recreational drugs, and just plain denial. Except what you have as something you can get under control and live a normal life ( if there is such a thing as we are all different)
The other thing so important is professional help you can not treat your self. So many have thought they could, and the drugs they consumed in large quantities were mostly depressants, just the opposite of whats needed, whey were and are, digging a deeper hole for themselves. Likewise a persons condition as a drug user, alcoholic,etc. is no more than a crutch, an excuse for the real problem that should be addressed. This is one area where you can help yourself. Just about every person I have encountered that had" a drinking problem" were depressed from the start. Once they got control of the drinking, their depression problems improved. This is one area where you can " help thyself" on the long road to a better life. I have been there also. It was that realization that stopped my drinking and the dependence on a drug. Very few people are ever cured by treatments like AAA and the like. As in my case, avoid the problem I could control, I did, and have not had a drink in 8 years,with no desire to restart ether. Just one of the steps you can be proud of, helping yourself.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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To overcome a depression (and I can assure you from what I read it is clear that you have only a very mild/seasonal depression) you do not only need medication but in your case a therapy or some meetings would do wonders!
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:33 AM
 
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To overcome a depression (and I can assure you from what I read it is clear that you have only a very mild/seasonal depression) you do not only need medication but in your case a therapy or some meetings would do wonders!
I would like to know how you have diagnosed this persons depression , as " seasonal" ? I may have read too much into the case,so confusion is quite possible, however when a person says their condition is chronic, or recurring for years and they are still quite young a red flag goes up in my way of thinking. You or anyone as a person can not" overcome a depression" It does not work that way.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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Right, darstar.

Be careful on these threads OP...you might get poor suggestions.

Diagnosis should ONLY be done by a qualified medical specialist...a MD, psychologist.

There are different types of depression, needing different medications or maybe none at all; counseling is useful too. First see your family MD...if warranted, you can then be referred to a specialist.

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I would like to know how you have diagnosed this persons depression , as " seasonal" ? I may have read too much into the case,so confusion is quite possible, however when a person says their condition is chronic, or recurring for years and they are still quite young a red flag goes up in my way of thinking. You or anyone as a person can not" overcome a depression" It does not work that way.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:24 PM
 
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I think most mental issues are caused by Blood sugar issues.
Which makes sense because Blood sugar (Glucose is the main fuel source of the brain)

Almost all drugs involved with treating mental issues increase Blood sugar, Including Bupropion, Amphetamines like ritalin for A.D.D, Antipsychotics for Schizophrenia & OCD, Also MAO inhibitors & Lithium for Bi Polar ALL increase Blood sugar levels.

Low Blood sugar = Low Serotonin. Low Serotonin levels are behind these issues.

Perhaps you have a Copper toxicity issue.

Copper toxicity can be involved with A.D.D , Depression & Insomnia.

As Copper toxicity can lower Blood sugar due to lower Corticoids & Lowering Histamine causing mental disturbance.

This is what I hate about these jackasses. They don't even test you or see if your symptoms match an issue like Copper toxicity.
Or any many other issues like Food Allergies or Low blood sugar or Low Cholestrol levels which can cause depression or A.D.D or other mental issues.

Instead they just give you some sort of quick fix pill. Then bam nothing solved only a temp fix & then people end up worse as nothing is achieved exept their wallets getting fatter as they give you the cure that solves nothing.


Try to be more observant. See if your symptoms are worse or better after doing certain activities.

If you eat something sugary & you feel better it is likely your blood sugar is out of wack causing depression & A.D.D symptoms.

If you eat something sugary & you feel worse perhaps you have the opposite issue with High blood sugar & Insulin spikes causing your issues.

See how you feel after you eat Wheat or Milk products. Allergies could be causing depression & A.D.D issues.

Even after you drink coffee perhaps your issue gets worse from sensitivity to Caffiene.

Even certain food dyes could make your problem.

I am not saying get off the pill today. But, you might be able to observe an issue yourself.
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