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Old 07-13-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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Have you tried - and I know this isn't easy - exercise (walking, for example), getting healthy (a fruit now and then), and researching natural anti-depressives?

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I'm sorry for your loss and I'm glad you found something that helped you. Medications do not work for me, and yes, I have tried many of them.

 
Old 07-14-2012, 12:18 AM
 
Location: In a state of denial
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I stopped caring after finding out that my extended family on both sides didn't give a flying **** about me or anyone else other than their own hide. If there is one thing I have learned from the last decade of general deterioration of American society, it is that hard times will show what kind of character one really has. I honestly thought that family gave a ****...they don't. Or, people I thought were family and friends really weren't.
People are "family and friends" until you need something. Then they aren't "there". Been on both sides of the equation. I have enough to take care of me and mine, but not others. If "family members" are looking to sponge off me they are looking in the wrong place.
 
Old 07-14-2012, 04:40 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Have you tried - and I know this isn't easy - exercise (walking, for example), getting healthy (a fruit now and then), and researching natural anti-depressives?
I work out 5x a week and eat a very healthy diet.
 
Old 07-14-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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And you still feel awful...

Are there any counseling programs you could perhaps try? Some work on a sliding scale, some are offered by some insurance programs but these have copays and such.

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I work out 5x a week and eat a very healthy diet.
 
Old 07-14-2012, 11:14 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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And you still feel awful...

Are there any counseling programs you could perhaps try? Some work on a sliding scale, some are offered by some insurance programs but these have copays and such.
I know you're trying to be helpful and I don't mean to be rude, but do you honestly think (keeping in mind that I have dealt with this issue for the better part of 20 years) that there is anything you can suggest that I have not already tried?
 
Old 07-15-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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I don't know. Have you tried everything?

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I know you're trying to be helpful and I don't mean to be rude, but do you honestly think (keeping in mind that I have dealt with this issue for the better part of 20 years) that there is anything you can suggest that I have not already tried?
 
Old 07-15-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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I know you're trying to be helpful and I don't mean to be rude, but do you honestly think (keeping in mind that I have dealt with this issue for the better part of 20 years) that there is anything you can suggest that I have not already tried?
Exactly.
 
Old 07-15-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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I don't know. Have you tried everything?
I know I have tried almost everything, including but not limited to the following: therapy (several therapists and several methods, including cbt, etc), hypnosis, anti-depressants (several different ones), support groups, books, seminars, psychics, physical fitness, good diet, affirmations, the bible, life coaches, etc. Am I missing anything here? Maybe electric shock therapy is the one thing I haven't tried. Now all those things combined have helped me move the needle a LITTLE, but nowhere near enough. This is what I'm saying.
 
Old 07-15-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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I do see you've tried all kinds of things.

I wonder if some people just have that type of personality. I'm not being facetious. I'm serious. What if some of us are born upbeat, and some of us are born not so upbeat?


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I know I have tried almost everything, including but not limited to the following: therapy (several therapists and several methods, including cbt, etc), hypnosis, anti-depressants (several different ones), support groups, books, seminars, psychics, physical fitness, good diet, affirmations, the bible, life coaches, etc. Am I missing anything here? Maybe electric shock therapy is the one thing I haven't tried. Now all those things combined have helped me move the needle a LITTLE, but nowhere near enough. This is what I'm saying.
 
Old 07-15-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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I do see you've tried all kinds of things.

I wonder if some people just have that type of personality. I'm not being facetious. I'm serious. What if some of us are born upbeat, and some of us are born not so upbeat?
I think thats possible. For me it boils down to a few things: not being able to let go of past mistakes and having an enormous amount of regret, feeling its just too late, truly believing I'm not good enough and never will be, and my parents never helping instill confidence in me. In fact, what my Mother did was the opposite, so I have a lot farther to go. It just feels so overwhelming and so much to overcome at the advanced age of 43 (I feel 10 years behind personally and professionally), that I'm tired and don't care anymore. The major thing is the loss of hope that it will EVER improve. It won't.
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