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Old 09-24-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Ro cha cha, NY
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That's strange, I've always felt the opposite. I felt the face is what you're stuck with and the body is alterable.

This is what annoys me when women are telling us that "oh it's not the hot body, a good face gets me every time". Well a good face is winning the genetics lottery, at least with a body exercise and diet exists.

You're right if you're talking about normal to within normal ranges. Everyone doesn't have a body that is within reason to be fixed. However, with modern technology almost anything can be changed in the face. Nose, forehead, chin, teeth, lips, complete jawline, cheekbones, etc. If you have enough money, than there is almost nothing that can't be fixed today in the face. Now the body, you have to have some semblence of normalcy to work with.

Take a five hundred pound man. Yes, you can give him lipo suction etc, but he's still left with rolls of fat that just hang down. Take someone like the one I added to my first post. someone who is so rediculously out of balance that all the exercise and surgeries in the world couldn't possibly make them attractive. I wish I had a picture of the women I saw the other day and you would probably understand better where I am coming from.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Until you can find the resources to correct your jaw misalignment, smile and look people directly in the eye. That will help take everyone's mind -- including yours -- off the issue. It'll be hard, until you get into the habit.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:29 PM
 
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Until you can find the resources to correct your jaw misalignment, smile and look people directly in the eye. That will help take everyone's mind -- including yours -- off the issue. It'll be hard, until you get into the habit.
You're right, it couldn't hurt developing some confidence before I get around to this. And maintaining eye contact is one of my biggest weaknesses, but I feel it's creepy to look strangers directly in the eye.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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Oh look, a thread about physical appearances was moved to the mental health forum, it's good to know the mods think I'm a headcase.
I'm not the mod who moved it, but what you are asking about (lack of self confidence, depression) is a psychological response (and not an unusual one, many of us have been there!) to a physical issue (appearance due to jaw malalignment). How one feels about one's appearance is a mental issue, not a physical one. No one is saying you are a "head case", and you're getting some helpful suggestions on how to deal with the issue. Looking forward to updates about what the surgeon has to say.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:36 PM
 
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I'm not the mod who moved it, but what you are asking about (lack of self confidence, depression) is a psychological response (and not an unusual one, many of us have been there!) to a physical issue (appearance due to jaw malalignment). How one feels about one's appearance is a mental issue, not a physical one. No one is saying you are a "head case".
You make a good point, I'm not asking about how to alter my physical appearance as much as I am my state of mind, so I guess the move makes sense.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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You're right, it couldn't hurt developing some confidence before I get around to this. And maintaining eye contact is one of my biggest weaknesses, but I feel it's creepy to look strangers directly in the eye.
Most people feel it's creepy not to, as long as you're not staring.

At work we use this website frequently to help people build conversational skills as part of our leadership training; perhaps it will help you.

The Importance of Eye Contact | Conversation Aid

The author isn't trying to sell expensive books or crystals or psychological mumbo jumbo, although he does provide links to such things. Just don't click on the "reviews" tab if you don't want to go there ...

Once you start conversing with and engaging people, it will come easier for you. When you look someone in the eye and smile, and they respond, that will help you build your self-confidence.

Best wishes to you!
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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And what exactly is so ugly about you? Maybe you can work on that...
People can get corrective surgeries if the physical imperfections affect their daily life, including mental health.
True. While the people I know who did corrective surgeries were high-functioning, they did it for career advancement. I knew both a guy and a girl from college who had both a nose job and a chin implant done simultaneously. For some reason, this combination often shows up together. The girl also had a 3rd procedure, aimed to reduced the gummy look of her mouth, especially when smiling.

At any rate, both of these people became attorneys and went on to seemingly happy marriages.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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True. While the people I know who did corrective surgeries were high-functioning, they did it for career advancement. I knew both a guy and a girl from college who had both a nose job and a chin implant done simultaneously. For some reason, this combination often shows up together. The girl also had a 3rd procedure, aimed to reduced the gummy look of her mouth, especially when smiling.

At any rate, both of these people became attorneys and went on to seemingly happy marriages.
The surgery for a gummy smile is a legit operation. That is a maxillary impaction, and is frequently a result of mouth breathing and can cause sleep apnea and other issues. I don't want anything enhanced like a nose job or anything like that, I just want my jaw to look the way it should have, had it developed properly
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Well hang on what's the question again?

Is OP ugly or not?

Am I getting Alzheimers?

I just can't seem to understand half of this chit.

I'll ring up my ex hub and ask him how he stands to look in the mirror every day. He's the ugliest person I know, both inside and out.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Ok I just caught a bit about chin surgery.

I know a girl who got her jaw broken and extended to improve her bite, her looks, her blah blah.

She said, NEVER AGAIN. Very slight improvement for months of agony and not being able to eat.

Some arse would have to pay ME to cut me up, not the other way round.
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