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Old 11-28-2014, 08:07 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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If you see someone who is married or has a girlfriend (or boyfriend) and they claim they have Aspergers, they're straight up lying.
Not true from what I've seen. Also, many marry other people with Asperger's.

"Later in life, I realized my husband had some of the telltale traits of Asperger’s. He was a celebrated musical savant and started college when he was 15, but he can’t balance a checkbook. People with Asperger’s often marry each other, maybe because the syndrome runs in families and therefore seems normal to kids who grow up surrounded by this kind of behavior."
Could Your Boss Have Asperger
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Old 11-28-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Is it utter nonsense perpetrated by the 'medical elite', or are the conditions associated worthy of diagnosis? And do you feel the urge to judge and belittle someone on the street when (s)he is somewhat socially impaired or even just merely awkward?
Any opinions are greatly accepted.
Asperger's is not "new" and is certainly a valid diagnosis. Most with it are extremely intelligent folks, and many of them go on to successful lives and careers, especially when they have gotten proper support and help for dealing with it.

Jerry Seinfield has recently announced that he has Asperger's, just FYI.
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Old 11-29-2014, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX and Las Vegas, NV
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There are many kinds of personalities that do not have labels but share very identifiable traits. I definitely believe in the AS characteristics. And I do think it is beneficial to understand this "disorder" for people who interact with a person who is an Aspie. However, that is never a reason a person should get special treatment. Empathy is one thing; excuses for unacceptable behavior is another.
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I have a female cousin, now age 69, who has Asperger's. She is verbal and fairly articulate but has the classic symptoms: failure to read other people's social and emotional cues, obsessive preoccupation with certain topics that she talks about non-stop, and she dresses oddly. She has a lot of trouble relating to other people and has very poor relationships with her four siblings and with her numerous cousins. She doesn't see her own role in those difficulties; it's always the other person's fault. It's very frustrating for others who try to deal with her. And for her, the result is a lifetime of loneliness. Very sad.
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Old 12-02-2014, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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My Thoughts:

Aspy is overdiagnosed (not "all the time" of course)

A percentage of those w AS most likely have "schizophrenia w negative features" (but AS is more socially acceptable and therefor more diagnosed.

[ One study: The relationship between Asperger's syndrome and schizophrenia in a... - PubMed - NCBI ]

Autism is overdiagnosed (not "all the time" of course)

Parents prefer the word "autism" over "mental retardation" (less stigma, almost to the point of "trendy" at times) so they use it incorrectly.

Many are dx as "autistic" to get early intervention when MR is their primary dx.
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Old 12-02-2014, 06:13 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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A percentage of those w AS most likely have "schizophrenia w negative features" (but AS is more socially acceptable and therefor more diagnosed.
Schizophrenia is a psychotic disorder. There are no hallucinations or delusions involved with Asperger's syndrome (now called Autism Spectrum Disorder).

This is a study of ten (10) adolescents, two of whom were diagnosed with schizophrenia (questionable right there, since schizophrenia does not usually manifest in a person until ages 18 and up) before they were evaluated for Asperger's? Not exactly a valid sample...
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:34 AM
 
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Schizophrenia is a psychotic disorder. There are no hallucinations or delusions involved with Asperger's syndrome (now called Autism Spectrum Disorder).

********* Most people don't realize that you do not need to have any hallucinations to have schizophrenia. There are many who have "negative symptoms" only. Examples of these symptoms: little desire to interact w others, lack of affect and lack of spontaneous actions. Because of this, many go untreated as in AS. **********

The negative symptoms of schizophrenia


This is a study of ten (10) adolescents, two of whom were diagnosed with schizophrenia (questionable right there, since schizophrenia does not usually manifest in a person until ages 18 and up) before they were evaluated for Asperger's? Not exactly a valid sample...
No, just one example.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:10 PM
 
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********* Most people don't realize that you do not need to have any hallucinations to have schizophrenia. There are many who have "negative symptoms" only. Examples of these symptoms: little desire to interact w others, lack of affect and lack of spontaneous actions. Because of this, many go untreated as in AS. **********

The negative symptoms of schizophrenia
The above is your quote, not mine.
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Old 12-11-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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I know. The is why I put stars around it.

Writing from smartphone.
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:59 AM
 
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********* Most people don't realize that you do not need to have any hallucinations to have schizophrenia. There are many who have "negative symptoms" only....
But one does need to have more than negative symptoms only for that diagnosis. (At least one from criterion A, and one from the remaining criteria.) http://ccpweb.wustl.edu/pdfs/2013_defdes.pdf
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