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Old 03-04-2015, 11:01 AM
 
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Further, the DSM-V is complete garbage and has not a shred of validity. It is full of made up and voted on "diseases."

The HEAD of the American Psychiatric Association and National Institutes of Mental Health , Dr. Tom Insel, came out and said psychiatry is NOT science and the DSM-V is garbageand full of NON- science. It is all VOTED ON and MADE UP at conferences. NO OBJECTIVITY whatsoever.

Insel wants to ABANDON the field in favor of NEUROLOGY.
That is a very damaging to psychiatry..... Their own leader thinks it is nonsense.

NASA SCIENTIST PAUL LUTUS exposes psychiatry as WITCH DOCTOR nonsense.

CHALLENGE psychiatrists immediately. Expose them. Make society science literate and take away ALL their power.
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Old 03-07-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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I agree!

Actually there are two fields of study which have a LONG history of inaccuracies. Those being psychiatry and astronomy. The medical field is not far behind with its "blood letting" and so forth.

For fun you can still be a member of the "Flat Earth Society"...

The Flat Earth Society
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Old 03-22-2015, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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I agree that psychology and neurology needs some merger for better diagnostic clarification and respectability by laymen.

However, i don't think a random "NASA scientist" is any more relevant to the conversation than a "mixologist."
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Old 03-22-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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CHALLENGE psychiatrists immediately. Expose them. Make society science literate and take away ALL their power.
Unfortunately, more people than not, actually believe that a shrink can/will help them.
Guess some people just like taking mind altering drugs.
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Old 03-22-2015, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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To the original poster (Michael Swanson): How odd that you talk about making society science literate. There is certainly a reasonable argument to be made that psychiatry is as much art and hope as science, but you have not made that argument. Science presupposes objectivity and rationality, of which your emotionally over-wrought and hyperbolic rant gives little or no evidence. All the capitalization, bold fonts, and different colors indicate is a state of anger - they are equivalent to shouting. But no matter how loud you shout, it doesn't make your ideas any more convincing; rather, it makes them less so.

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Old 03-22-2015, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I agree!

Actually there are two fields of study which have a LONG history of inaccuracies. Those being psychiatry and astronomy. The medical field is not far behind with its "blood letting" and so forth.

For fun you can still be a member of the "Flat Earth Society"...

The Flat Earth Society
Science is ultimately self-correcting. So its history of inaccuracies has very little to do with the situation of science in 2015, which is the subject of the original post which was written in March of 2015.

Do you think that the present-day state of medical knowledge is besmirched by the former practice of "bleeding" patients, which was abandoned over 100 years ago? The history of medicine and its misconceptions is interesting and instructive, for sure, but is certainly not proof that the knowledge of the present day rests on shaky ground.

How about astronomy? The misconceptions of hundreds of years ago have little to do with the amazing and increasingly accurate discoveries which have been made over the past few hundred years, starting (arguably) with Galileo and his home-made telescope. Galileo was more or less the father of observation-based astronomy, and his puny telescope would give way to ever more powerful ones and ever greater understanding as the years went on, progressing to human exploration of the moon, remote (robotic) exploration of Mars, and close fly-bys of other planets and asteroids. How could a science such as astronomy have emerged full-blown? Its triumph is a stirring testimony to the human intellect and to the human spirit, yet you seem to wish to denigrate it. I would be interested in your explanation for that.
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Unfortunately, more people than not, actually believe that a shrink can/will help them.
Guess some people just like taking mind altering drugs.
It can be very dangerous to tell someone not to take their "mind altering drugs." Certain mental illnesses can't be treated any other way. Try living with someone who is manic and has stopped taking mood stabilizers. I think you will change your mind.
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Old 03-23-2015, 07:14 AM
 
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If a person has something chemically wrong with their mind, then "mind altering drugs" seem a logical first step in correcting that chemical problem. Considering that many alzheimers patients are helped with some of these "mind altering drugs" and many patients who are being treated for suicidal thoughts and attempts - have been helped with these "mind altering drugs," it seems to me as though these "mind altering drugs" and the psychiatrists who prescribe them are actually doing some good.

Perhaps the alt-supplement companies are sending their shills around again, since trashing "big pharma" and the medical community is the only way they can convince people to shell out millions on their untested, unproven, often fraudulent quackery. (Really, it only convinces suckers, and people so desperate to save their lives that they'll try anything, even things that don't work or worse - can harm them more).
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Squirrel Hill PA
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OP must have had a very unhappy experience with a psychiatrist.

From my point of view it does not matter so much where it comes from or how they figure out what to do. What matters is does it help people to have a better quality of life? I don't care if it is a sugar pill or a mind altering drug. If it gives someone peace of mind, freedom from pain and the strength to keep going, then it is not a bad thing.
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Old 03-26-2015, 11:16 AM
 
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When I think of authorities on mental health, NASA is the first thing that comes to my mind...
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