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Old 05-24-2015, 08:16 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Has anyone had any luck getting rid of persistent suicide thoughts and if so, how did you do it? I really feel that I have nothing to live for as I gain no pleasure out of life anymore...
The right medication. Clinical depression changes the way your brain functions. No amount of therapy is going to help until normal brain chemistry is restored, especially in the prefrontal cortex. And you may have to try more than one med to find the right one for you. Hang in there.
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Old 05-24-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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Are you in a state that you can get medical marijuana for your maladies? Do you just not like human beings much? Not all humans fancy their fellow species and over the years can built up quite a shell. Marijuana can and does break that shell for many people. It won't make you run out of your house and immediately be the life of the party (but something tells me you are not looking for that anyway). Smoke a joint, write down your thoughts, put some relaxing movies or music, play some video games, enjoy that space deep in your mind that may never have been touched (or not touched correctly) with some bud. MJ has actually helped me immensely with issues of depression, anxiety, low self-esteem, self-harm, etc. It can truly give you a much needed alternative on life.

Also, look up the term Acedia. Ignore any of the religious connotations (i am not religious at all, but when I discovered the ancient term Acedia, it truly explained what is often overdiagnosed as depression in this country. It's kind of a Monk's disorder). Good luck, and if you wanna talk PM me.



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Old 05-24-2015, 05:14 PM
 
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This is a MENTAL HEALTH FORUM where depressed people will no doubt post. Your post was unsupportive, out of the normal and unexpected, and so I reported you.

I'm sorry if you think that everything has to completely conform, so that you crack down on something that's "unexpected."

I assume that what's really bothering you is someone bluntly saying that you have to apply yourself to work toward bettering your situation, rather that just being consoling about sitting around in the same counter-productive patterns, expecting everything to be done for you. From the sound of the story, I get the impression that there has already been a lot of "support" and it's been no help at all.
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Old 05-24-2015, 06:40 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Are you in a state that you can get medical marijuana for your maladies? Smoke a joint, write down your thoughts, put some relaxing movies or music...
Except that it's a central nervous system depressant.
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Old 05-24-2015, 08:42 PM
 
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That is pharmacologically irrelevant.
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Old 05-25-2015, 08:15 AM
 
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That is pharmacologically irrelevant.
How so?
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Old 05-25-2015, 08:39 AM
 
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I was just kinda being cheeky with you. I don't drink alcohol anymore because of it's depressant qualities, but just because a substance has an effect on the central nervous system as a doesn't mean it also can't have anti-depressant qualities and other qualities that might mitigate some of someone's symptoms. Granted, I also take a daily antidepressant (citalopram). After thinking about it some more, maybe I shouldn't be going around telling depressed people they should smoke marijuana though, sorry.
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:37 PM
 
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Guanficare has been used with some to help with suicidal thoughts at the local
VA hospital.

So sorry you are hurting and feeling disconnected.
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Old 05-26-2015, 02:50 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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heartfocus, I feel for you. I am sorry to heard of your struggles. I too have losses and struggles so I can empathise with you.

I have however been able to improve my state of mind. I am taking an old school medication that helps me sleep and does to some extent help relieve the depression, that being doxepin together with a half tablet of mirtazapine. I would not recommend mirtazapine - it makes one feel old and weak with body aches and pains for nearly a year!

The biggest improvement came when I started on neuro nutrients, those being L-Theanine and L-Tryptophan. Vitamins and minerals seemed to have helped too, most notably omega 3. B12 helps a lot if there is a deficiency which is quite likely if one is depressed. Unfortunately, all these can be a bit costly but for me it's been well worth it. I would now describe myself as being in recovery.

This is not a substitute for medication, its a supplement.

Practising mindfulness can also help. I do it once a week and I get a lift each time. Do a search on it. It only takes a few minutes to do. One aspect is learning to clear the mind of thoughts during the session. According to research, it stimulates new neuron growth.

I wish you all the best and hope you will find peace sooner rather than later.

Kindest regards
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