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View Poll Results: Collapse of Mexico or Collapse of the drug war?
Oh no, my god we are doomed Mexico will collapse! 5 55.56%
Governments will regain sanity and prohibition will collapse 4 44.44%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-22-2009, 10:48 AM
 
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It looks like some people are getting too paranoid with the supposed "collapse" of Mexico, but if you ask real mexicans who live in this country, even though we are concerned (specially those who live in juarez or culiacan) nobody has ever thought that this country will collapse, after all we've had worst periods in our history, like the dirty war of the 60-70's where a lot of people died, in this period there were a lot of subersive groups trying to seize control of the country, some were independent, and others were funded by communists who wanted to expand their sphere of influence, this period was much worse than what we are currently facing now and the country didn't collapse.

That's why I believe that what will collapse will be prohibition, if things keep getting worse, the governments will have no choice but to legalize, let's see how many more dead people we need.

so what's your take, will Mexico collapse? LOL or will the war on drugs collapse?
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:40 PM
 
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this country will never collapse

It is the way it has always been

It is mexico it is supposed a bad place
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:43 PM
 
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this country will never collapse

It is the way it has always been

It is mexico it is supposed a bad place
supposed by whom, people that only know Mexico by the news? btw, what is good or what is bad anyhow?

there's no perfect country, and some countries might be better off economically, socially, technologically, spiritually than others, but I guess the concept of good or bad depends on the person
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:08 PM
 
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The idea of the collapse of the government of Mexico is silly at it's best. Alarmism. Anyone who seriously interpreted the report to literally mean that Mexico would collapse is naive, or just too ignorant to even be discussing the issue.

However, despite the headline, you do get the message, right? "You" meaning anyone with concern of the matters in Mexico. You cannot hide your head in the sand to say there is not a problem with the cartels and law enforcement in Mexico. And please spare the "the US is the biggest customer" mantra.

As Pope John Paul said about The Passion Of The Christ when asked by a reporter if the Jews killed Jesus, the Pope replied "It is what it is". That is the situation in Mexico with regards to violence. In fact, I'd go a step further to say that the US has more drug dealers, better organized, etc. However, they are not killing law enforcement, or news reporters. The are in check, and in hiding.

Not so with the cartels in Mexico. I would guess that most people who live in the vicinity of the violence know exactly who is doing it. Maybe the get paid to be quiet, maybe they are also too scared to say anything. The fact is, the "bad guys" are no strangers. Mexico just needs to suck it up, and go after the guys and do 'whatever' is necessary to regain authority, else there will be anarchy in the border towns.

But will the country collapse? Of course not.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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It looks like some people are getting too paranoid with the supposed "collapse" of Mexico, but if you ask real mexicans who live in this country, even though we are concerned (specially those who live in juarez or culiacan) nobody has ever thought that this country will collapse, after all we've had worst periods in our history, like the dirty war of the 60-70's where a lot of people died, in this period there were a lot of subersive groups trying to seize control of the country, some were independent, and others were funded by communists who wanted to expand their sphere of influence, this period was much worse than what we are currently facing now and the country didn't collapse.

That's why I believe that what will collapse will be prohibition, if things keep getting worse, the governments will have no choice but to legalize, let's see how many more dead people we need.

so what's your take, will Mexico collapse? LOL or will the war on drugs collapse?
Why laugh at the idea of revolution in Mexico? There's a lot of people who want it to happen there and everywhere else. Who cares if they succeed when they can cause enough havoc and misery just by trying to make it happen.

http://www.marxist.com/we-are-determ...ur-country.htm

Some of what's happening now is a continuation of the 60s and 70s. Politically Subversive activities masquerading behind "drug cartels" and using the profits thereof to fund a political agenda. Camouflage the activities of political terrorism as ordinary criminal activity. Brilliant strategy. Keeps the people thinking it's a "law enforcement" issue if all they're looking at is the nightly news and the papers.

On the flip side, radical political activists are benefiting in the public arena from the social disturbance being caused. And predictably, they are blaming it all on the dialectical problems of capitalism and liberalism and yadda yadda... touting Marxism as the solution to all the problems of the world. While conveniently ignoring the fact that their colleagues in the underworld shadows are taking part in and profiting from the drug trade.

And the hoped for collapse of Mexico is tied into a hoped for crisis to be generated in the United States, along the lines of accomplishing a collapse here. What this is all about is something bigger. There is no "drug war". There is only a war on free society using drugs as ammo.

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Old 05-23-2015, 07:16 AM
 
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In your lifetime, you will very possibly live to see the day when Mexico has a problem with illegal American aliens coming into Mexico for a better lifestyle. You might even be one of them yourself.

A general economic crash that brings down the lending banks and/or the energy sector will have a much more devastating effect on daily life in the USA than in Mexico, where people live without credit and with a much lighter energy footprint. Mexico's per capita electrical power consumption is 1/12 of the USA, and Mexico's median personal debt is 1/30 of the USA, so Mexicans can maintain a pretty decent standard of living without dependency on those two sectors, which are the ones most likely to be crippled by economic catastrophe.
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