Miami worst city to live in the US (home, yard)

[BNBR]

Originally Posted by UrbanCheetah

Do you find in general the people that hate Miami are not Latino, and the ones that like it are?

I have found the people that complain about Miami the most are non-Latinos. The ones that appreciate and enjoy living there are the Latinos.

That is probably a fair assessment.

[UrbanCheetah]

Originally Posted by BNBR

That is probably a fair assessment.

That's actually one of the things I love about Miami, that I think some "white" people might not get. In Chicago we have plenty of Latinos, but not the majority, so in the professional world and in the upper class neighborhoods and general nightlife spots, it's overwhelmingly white, so the feeling of being a minority is amplified.

When I go to Miami it's the opposite. I feel so comfortable. When I go out it's great to be surrounded by fellow Latinos. It's great to meet so many professional Latinos. So I can imagine a white person who moves to Miami feels what many minorities feel in most cities.

For example, an Asian person would also feel so out of place and not be able to connect as well with people in Miami. But put them in Honolulu and they will feel very comfortable. Same with Atlanta and African Americans.

I think what people fail to understand is that Miami is basically a Latin American city on US soil. If you don't like being a minority, don't like Latin American culture or people, you are going to hate Miami. A Cuban who who is very in tune with their culture would probably dislike and not like a place like Seattle or Minneapolis. They would feel left out almost. So the people that hate on Miami so much I get the impression are white Americans who just can't fit in.

[boxus]

Originally Posted by UrbanCheetah

That's actually one of the things I love about Miami, that I think some "white" people might not get. In Chicago we have plenty of Latinos, but not the majority, so in the professional world and in the upper class neighborhoods and general nightlife spots, it's overwhelmingly white, so the feeling of being a minority is amplified.

When I go to Miami it's the opposite. I feel so comfortable. When I go out it's great to be surrounded by fellow Latinos. It's great to meet so many professional Latinos. So I can imagine a white person who moves to Miami feels what many minorities feel in most cities.

For example, an Asian person would also feel so out of place and not be able to connect as well with people in Miami. But put them in Honolulu and they will feel very comfortable. Same with Atlanta and African Americans.

I think what people fail to understand is that Miami is basically a Latin American city on US soil. If you don't like being a minority, don't like Latin American culture or people, you are going to hate Miami. A Cuban who who is very in tune with their culture would probably dislike and not like a place like Seattle or Minneapolis. They would feel left out almost. So the people that hate on Miami so much I get the impression are white Americans who just can't fit in.

I have to disagree a little. There are many different types of "white" people, including Hispanics. Going out in Miami, the person walking by me could be from who knows where, and they probably think the same about me (for example). So the feeling of (if "white") "I am a minority here" does not exist in a phenotype sense. A white person must have some hardened Anglo Saxon looks or something to experience this, and even at that, there are some people that look straight out of Ireland or something all to find out they are from Argentina.

As for the hate on Miami; every city in the US has a "hate it" crowd.

I understand what you are saying though, and for Joe Smith from Ohio he probably does feel like a minority even though in reality, Hispanic whites make up a good proportion of the population, and that the phenotype differences are basically irrelevant compared to blacks for example.

The thing that makes anyone not from Miami stand out is the way they dress, and that will attract attention more so than what race/ethnic group someone is.

[boxus]

Originally Posted by UrbanCheetah

Do you find in general the people that hate Miami are not Latino, and the ones that like it are?

I have found the people that complain about Miami the most are non-Latinos. The ones that appreciate and enjoy living there are the Latinos.

I do not think it is just non-Latinos who complain, I think the people who complain come from the southern or mid-western type culture, which really is in contrast with the Miami culture and the culture of S.FL in general, which non-Hispanic whites make up the majority of.

But there are plenty of blacks who do not like Miami and plenty of Hispanics who do not like Miami.

But look at all those who do like the place. I meet people from all over the world, not just Latin America, who love Miami and enjoy living here.

[UrbanCheetah]

Originally Posted by boxus

I have to disagree a little. There are many different types of "white" people, including Hispanics. Going out in Miami, the person walking by me could be from who knows where, and they probably think the same about me (for example). So the feeling of (if "white") "I am a minority here" does not exist in a phenotype sense. A white person must have some hardened Anglo Saxon looks or something to experience this, and even at that, there are some people that look straight out of Ireland or something all to find out they are from Argentina.

As for the hate on Miami; every city in the US has a "hate it" crowd.

I understand what you are saying though, and for Joe Smith from Ohio he probably does feel like a minority even though in reality, Hispanic whites make up a good proportion of the population, and that the phenotype differences are basically irrelevant compared to blacks for example.

The thing that makes anyone not from Miami stand out is the way they dress, and that will attract attention more so than what race/ethnic group someone is.

I think you misinterperted about when I said "white". I meant non-hispanic whites when I say whites. Latinos come in all races, but I meant non-hispanic whites.

[doom1001]

I'm hispanic and Miami is far from my ideal place to live.I dont think my dislike of Miami has reached "hate" levels yet but I think every year it gets closer to it,luckily I'm out of here pretty soon.

[UrbanCheetah]

Originally Posted by doom1001

I'm hispanic and Miami is far from my ideal place to live.I dont think my dislike of Miami has reached "hate" levels yet but I think every year it gets closer to it,luckily I'm out of here pretty soon.

I am just curious, what don't you like about it?

[Cameron60]

Originally Posted by ruski

How interesting that it is only a stone's throw away from the best place to live in the whole USA.

Which city was rated best?

[AnnRyan]

As usual... I bend the curve. Raised in the midwest, family in the United States for 150 years, no hispanic history at all.... love Miami. Love the weirdness, love the ever changing landscape, love the wildlife (and yes, I see it routinely), etc.

But I long ago learned that being average was overrated. People who feel compelled to be in the majority, or fit in with the Jones' will probably hate it here.

[BNBR]

Originally Posted by UrbanCheetah

That's actually one of the things I love about Miami, that I think some "white" people might not get. In Chicago we have plenty of Latinos, but not the majority, so in the professional world and in the upper class neighborhoods and general nightlife spots, it's overwhelmingly white, so the feeling of being a minority is amplified.

When I go to Miami it's the opposite. I feel so comfortable. When I go out it's great to be surrounded by fellow Latinos. It's great to meet so many professional Latinos. So I can imagine a white person who moves to Miami feels what many minorities feel in most cities.

For example, an Asian person would also feel so out of place and not be able to connect as well with people in Miami. But put them in Honolulu and they will feel very comfortable. Same with Atlanta and African Americans.

I think what people fail to understand is that Miami is basically a Latin American city on US soil. If you don't like being a minority, don't like Latin American culture or people, you are going to hate Miami. A Cuban who who is very in tune with their culture would probably dislike and not like a place like Seattle or Minneapolis. They would feel left out almost. So the people that hate on Miami so much I get the impression are white Americans who just can't fit in.

Appreciate the comments. It's nice to have an adult conversation about these types of things without people throwing the race card all over the place. I try and let new posters know what to expect with Miami, since a lot of non Spanish speakers don't find it comfortable. Whereas a Spanish speaker may be in heaven