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Old 11-26-2016, 02:57 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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For many of the exiles in 1959 and the early 1960s, what Castro did to them and their families was personal; in some cases they were even related to him by blood or through marriage.

So regardless of any ideological politics, which only idiots believe in anyway, this was personal.

But go ahead, keep on insulting people instead of trying to understand them, see what that gets you.


Oh wait, you just did.
Thank you! Castro has personally harmed my family, led to the murder of a great uncle of mine. Arrested my great grandfather as a political prisoner. He brought an upper class family down to poverty with his policies. He can choke on Satan's bodily fluids tonight.
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Doral
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I hope that Fidel's death gives some of the folks he mistreated comfort. Other than that, it's probably not going to change much in the politics and economics.

I do wonder how much longer the U.S. can justify wet foot dry foot though, at some point, that's bound to change.
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Old 11-26-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I hope that Fidel's death gives some of the folks he mistreated comfort. Other than that, it's probably not going to change much in the politics and economics.

I do wonder how much longer the U.S. can justify wet foot dry foot though, at some point, that's bound to change.
As for Fedel..I say Good riddance to bad rubbish..he will now be Judge by a much higher court..meanwhile the Castro's are still in power..and sooner rather than later..even though profiting by the family will become a focal point.. Folks like Trump/FAmily will love to take advantage..( just watch what the Trump empire does)

Business interest, who happens to FUND most politicians will pressure Heir Trump..and HE just can't help himself to avail his particular power to enable profit of such business ventures.. BUT guess what..any footprint or proof of PROFIT gained by Heir Trump..could cause an impeachment.. Many rules and laws would easily find Trump at fault.. Trump as an "Elect-President" needs to figure out..just how far he can push his personal interests..He's already profited with his campaign..hiking his location costs to profit..yet tries to suggest his OUT for the regular citizen. IF anyone trusts Trump..the next 4 years will be a rude awakening..and GOP Congress IF they enable it..too will be booted too!!

IF anyone believes that Trump has no interest in labeling yet another Resort or high-rise in Cuba..then I do believe many are living in an alternate reality!! Trump lives to bask in the limelight..get adored and praised..He JUST can't help himself!!

While Trump will become totally responsible come January..Cuba will become something that just may become an albatross ..since he actually can't stay away from Profiting!!
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Old 11-26-2016, 06:20 PM
 
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For many of the exiles in 1959 and the early 1960s, what Castro did to them and their families was personal; in some cases they were even related to him by blood or through marriage.

So regardless of any ideological politics, which only idiots believe in anyway, this was personal.

But go ahead, keep on insulting people instead of trying to understand them, see what that gets you.


Oh wait, you just did.
I can agree with this, but those people had it good in Cuba while 95% of the rest of the population did not. Batista was also a dictator and many of those exiles were tied to his regime. Those same people dominated Miami politics and the exiles to come. They had no regard for any of the Cuban people when they insisted on a useless embargo that only helped Castro. Their only goal was to return to Cuba and take back their property. They had little regard for the Marielitos either because they were poorer and darker. Those people that actually lived the revolution were not considered of valid opinion by the CANF and other Miami hardliners. Castro could have been made irrelevant decades ago, but those who took him "personally" kept him in power.
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Old 11-26-2016, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I am sure Fidel died very peacefully and fulfilled. He did exactly as he wanted to do for all those years. He played many Cubans, Americans and American Presidents and politicians for fools for years.

He will be buried in his beloved Cuba while many exiles have not been or ever will.
Actually, he will be cremated, but he won't be buried. Are you happy now? I'm glad he's gone. Bye-byes Fidel Castro. Good riddance to him!!!
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Old 11-27-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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As already mentioned, the celebration is more about personal feelings. Interesting that many of the younger relatives, those who probably were born in the US or arrived very young were participating but not much informed as to what consequences, or not, the death of the dictator will have.
And also mentioned, no changes for the Nation Island, they even had military exercises on the streets, presumably in preparation for the announcement and basically ordered everyone to mourn for 9 days and behave. No festivities over there.
A probable change, but for Miami es that this event plus the President Elect hints as to reverse favorable immigration policies (repeal the Cuban Adjustment Act?) can create a new wave of rafters escaping the Island towards Florida.
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Old 11-27-2016, 04:25 PM
 
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LOL!

Quick reminder that Dade County doesn't have a single highly-rated public school.
Off topic, but according to the Miami Herald, the grading of schools in Miami-Dade, using a new grading formula, new tests and new learning standards, several got an A grade, these go from Elementary to High.
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Old 11-28-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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I hope that Fidel's death gives some of the folks he mistreated comfort. Other than that, it's probably not going to change much in the politics and economics.

I do wonder how much longer the U.S. can justify wet foot dry foot though, at some point, that's bound to change.

No, why?
The wet dry foot will remain the same.
As to the embargo, there's no embargo.
People don't invest because they don't pay and laws are draconian, impossible.
As to real estate, prices for residents still low and waiting for a hike that hardly will arrive, maybe next century.
A few days ago they asked Germans and Japanese why they did not invest in Cuba, they said "because they don't pay".
Hope Trumps liquidates Obama's legacy..which was insignificant, but the American flag in the American Embassy is not good for the heroic theme park.
Do you have Canadian tourists in Miami? Terrible.

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Old 11-28-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I'm not from Florida, so I have a question about Castro and Cuban-Americans.

The media narrative for the past twenty-odd years has been that older Cuban-Americans despise Castro, but that younger folks in Miami were more sympathetic to him. Now when I see and read about the celebrations going on in Florida at Castro's death, there seem to be as many, if not more, young people than oldsters dancing in the streets. Can someone from Miami explain this? Has the MSM been lying about the situation for decades?
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:49 PM
 
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No, why?
The wet dry foot will remain the same.
As to the embargo, there's no embargo.
People don't invest because they don't pay and laws are draconian, impossible.
As to real estate, prices for residents still low and waiting for a hike that hardly will arrive, maybe next century.
A few days ago they asked Germans and Japanese why they did not invest in Cuba, they said "because they don't pay".
Hope Trumps liquidates Obama's legacy..which was insignificant, but the American flag in the American Embassy is not good for the heroic theme park.
Do you have Canadian tourists in Miami? Terrible.
Hmmm, I'll, somewhat disagree, dry foot/wet foot is a blatant example of what the Elected President despises, foreign nationals getting a free and expedited ride. Keeping diplomatic relations will be conducive to the "extreme vetting" he favors. Want to come to the US? Get a Visa and be checked extensively.
There is a commercial, economic and financial embargo, except for food and medicine (humanitarian aid) there is no trade. The recent allowances to be able to bring to the US a couple of cigars and some rum, are not going to explode their production and benefits.
You are correct on the draconian laws, it's Socialism, no American bank is going to be allowed (yet) to establish base and start giving out mortgages and credit cards.
I didn't get the Canadian tourist thing, they won't go to a tropical paradise to absorb the culture, they want a good time with comfort, safety, ATMs, Uber...hmmm Miami.
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