Miami teacher fired for being gay (lawyers, catholic schools, live)

[sinatras]

Let's all email and call this school to express our disappointment in their decision.

305-858-3722

Sts. Peter & Paul Catholic School in Miami, Fl

Catholic School Teacher Got Fired For Marrying A Woman « CBS Miami

[jenjmurray]

Catholic schools have rules. They do not support same sex marriages. Why should they change their rules? The teacher should find somewhere else to work, where her beliefs are supported.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by jenjmurray

Catholic schools have rules. They do not support same sex marriages. Why should they change their rules? The teacher should find somewhere else to work, where her beliefs are supported.

Complete and utter hypocrisy. So let's just think this through....If you sign a contract with the Catholic Church to teach you agree that you will not violate any of the Church's teachings.....So any teacher who has an affair gets fired? Any teacher who tells a lie gets fired? Any teacher who uses birth control gets fired? Any teacher who looks at porn gets fired? Any teacher who doesn't go to Mass gets fired? Yeah, it's only the homos who get fired. Especially in the South.

Meanwhile gays and gay sex are rampant in the clergy......if you went to Catholic School like I did you remember all the priests hitting on boys and the nuns hitting on girls.

Same-sex marriage is now a protected right and the law of the land. Claiming religious freedom does not allow an individual or church to break the law in the U.S. (e.g., female circumcision; under-age marriage, etc.). They will get sued and win.

[jenjmurray]

I am Catholic and went to Catholic schools myself and sent my children to Catholic schools. My tuition is paying for a certain education that I expect teachers to teach my children. If a teacher is having an affair and it affects the teachings to her/his classroom, then yes, he/she should be terminated. If a teacher advertises her/his use of birth control in the teachings to the classroom, than yes, they should be fired. Do I need to keep going? This teacher made it public knowledge that she broke her contract. As a Catholic parent, that pays for my childs education, I send my child to a Catholic school so they are taught Catholic morals. The Catholic Church and this school are private organizations. They can hire/fire at will. She is a private employee and agreed to the contract when she accepted employment. She probably will sue and NEVER win.

[pslhomie]

Not defending this decision because I am not involved but it begs the question that if you know the rules and you violate the rules why can't you be held to the rules no matter how bad they may be. She signed the contract and if she could not live up to it then what is the School supposed to do? The only thing the teacher can do is appeal to the Pope. Good luck with that.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by jenjmurray

I am Catholic and went to Catholic schools myself and sent my children to Catholic schools. My tuition is paying for a certain education that I expect teachers to teach my children. If a teacher is having an affair and it affects the teachings to her/his classroom, then yes, he/she should be terminated. If a teacher advertises her/his use of birth control in the teachings to the classroom, than yes, they should be fired. Do I need to keep going? This teacher made it public knowledge that she broke her contract. As a Catholic parent, that pays for my childs education, I send my child to a Catholic school so they are taught Catholic morals. The Catholic Church and this school are private organizations. They can hire/fire at will. She is a private employee and agreed to the contract when she accepted employment. She probably will sue and NEVER win.

If her attorney can prove that someone else at the school violated the same contract (likely), and was NOT fired (likely), they will pay. Which means she wins.

[bale002]

Originally Posted by sinatras

Complete and utter hypocrisy. So let's just think this through....If you sign a contract with the Catholic Church to teach you agree that you will not violate any of the Church's teachings.....So any teacher who has an affair gets fired? Any teacher who tells a lie gets fired? Any teacher who uses birth control gets fired? Any teacher who looks at porn gets fired? Any teacher who doesn't go to Mass gets fired? Yeah, it's only the homos who get fired. Especially in the South.

Meanwhile gays and gay sex are rampant in the clergy......if you went to Catholic School like I did you remember all the priests hitting on boys and the nuns hitting on girls.

Same-sex marriage is now a protected right and the law of the land. Claiming religious freedom does not allow an individual or church to break the law in the U.S. (e.g., female circumcision; under-age marriage, etc.). They will get sued and win.

Almost all humans are hypocrites to at least some extent, it's part of their nature, ideology type does not matter, and human hypocrisy is not technically a legal matter.

I believe that same-sex marriage is a matter of public law that does not necessarily affect private associations, which is what private schools and churches are; for example, a parish church is, in technical legal terms, managed by a Trust (legal entity) called the parish council.

At the same time, businesses and associations must comply with at least certain aspects of public law.

Moreover, the person who was allegedly fired may have a case in contract law (which is also what marriage is, a civil contract).

Of course, throwing in a bunch of emotionally-charged and hypocritical human ideology of whatever type may or may not help sway a jury or judge as to whether any aspects of public law or civil contract were violated in any given case brought before them.

Good Luck and pay, pay, pay the lawyers!

P.S. One could always go back to samizdat, the catacombs, etc.

[MyITGuy]

Originally Posted by jenjmurray

Catholic schools have rules. They do not support same sex marriages. Why should they change their rules? The teacher should find somewhere else to work, where her beliefs are supported.

Obligatory IANAL - However I would think rules and laws cannot supersede state and federal laws such as discrimination which this could be argued as. Otherwise we would see Mormons setting up shop to only employ women (or men?), or the KKK setup shops to only employ whites.

[Awsi Dooger]

Not surprising. Old scared white people don't want to give up their fear and bigotry. They are losing the war every day but that doesn't mean they won't stop applying the fear wherever they can for as long as they can.

The desperate rationalization is increasingly hilarious and pathetic.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by Awsi Dooger

Not surprising. Old scared white people don't want to give up their fear and bigotry. They are losing the war every day but that doesn't mean they won't stop applying the fear wherever they can for as long as they can.

The desperate rationalization is increasingly hilarious and pathetic.

You do realize that the school is 89% Hispanic?

https://www.greatschools.org/florida...--Paul-School/

Of course you do.