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Old 11-20-2018, 09:24 AM
 
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https://video.wpbt2.org/show/sinking-cities/

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Old 11-22-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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This episode can now be watched online.

https://www.pbs.org/show/sinking-cities/
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Old 11-23-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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Post 57 of this thread reviews some of the key points made in the Miami episode of the PBS "Sinking Cities" series.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...l#post53712082
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Old 11-23-2018, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Post 57 of this thread reviews some of the key points made in the Miami episode of the PBS "Sinking Cities" series.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...l#post53712082
Interesting video for sure! I'm glad they touched upon climate gentrification, how the majority of units owned in Miami are from foreigners and how the city is struggling. I love how they avoided that the pumps only have a lifespan of 10-15 years and how they actually pollute Biscayne Bay. I've done presentations about what Miami is doing and one of my good friends is a marine biologist at FIU and he showed me all the data about the Bay and pollution. In the end, all Miami is doing are band-aid solutions and it may work for five or ten years, but beyond that? probably not.
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:30 AM
 
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Harold Wanless, chair of the geological sciences department at the Univ. of Miami and likely southern Florida's top sea level rise expert, currently forecasts 10 to 33 feet of sea level rise in Miami by 2100.

See discussion in post 75 in this thread.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...s-miami-8.html

A rapid transition away from fossil fuels consumption may mitigate some of the sea level rise, but continued increases in fossil fuel consumption, as promoted by "Denier-in-Chief" Donald Trump and his Republican denier supporters in Congress and his legion of know-nothing followers, simply will the hasten the inundation of low-lying areas of Florida, including its beach and coastal nature preserves, sapping much of Florida's economic vitality.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/fe...evel/page3.php

The U.S. increased its oil production 3 million barrels per day in August, year-over-year, making the U.S. the largest oil producer in the world.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ump-a-lot-more

U.S. natural gas production is up over 10 percent in 2018, as the U.S. begins to export liquified natural gas to the rest of the world.

https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/natgas.php

Currently, the world produces 35 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuel consumption. This pollution accumulates in the atmosphere adding to emissions from prior years.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=33772

Man-made climate change science deniers never discuss what happens to these massive carbon dioxide emissions even though they are central to climate change science.

See post 1 in this thread for the prospect of a vicious methane cycle which also could accelerate both global warming and global ice melt.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/saras...ce-region.html

Some deniers hope for a "mini ice age" that would only slow global warming, according to most scientists. Even if global warming somehow is halted, the "equally evil twin" of man-made climate change -- ocean acidification -- would proceed unhindered. Ocean acidification threatens most marine specifies, directly or indirectly, but particularly the plankton at the bottom of the marine food chain and which also produce much of the world's oxygen.

https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/inve...-acidification

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Old 11-29-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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Let me guess. They filmed the series during the "King tides" Miami isn't sinking in as much as the island that Miami Beach is on is a living thing that shifts and moves. Unless you go Mississippi river on the place it will continue to shift and move as it has done for ever. Yes climate change is real but Mother Nature will always win no matter what.
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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Default Hurricane rapid intensification

Hurricane rapid intensification was a significant reveal discussed in the Miami episode of the PBS "Sinking Cities" series. See post 63 in this thread for a recap of the rapid intensification discussion in the Miami episode.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...s-could-7.html
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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Default Miami sea level rise projections

The amount of sea level rise that Miami might anticipate in coming decades surprisingly was not an emphasis in the Miami episode of the PBS "Sinking Cities" series. E.g., the episode didn't interview Harold Wanless, chair of the geological sciences department at the Univ. of Miami and a sea level rise expert, who expects 10 to 33 feet of sea level rise in south Florida by 2100 and significant sea level rise within 2 to 3 decades.

See post 75 in this thread for a discussion of Wanless' projections.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...s-miami-8.html
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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Wanless is clueless. PBS stands for Progressive Bull S#$%.
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Old 12-02-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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Wanless is clueless. PBS stands for Progressive Bull S#$%.
Man-made climate change science deniers are delusional. One commonality is that they claim (do they really believe this?) that leading climate change scientists are "clueless" (or otherwise biased or incompetent). Even if not explicitly or honestly, deniers claim that their "natural" intelligence is superior to that of these scientists, and that scientific research into empirical reality is "trumped" by denier "feel facts" based on unsubstantiated, often false, interpretations of "right wing" press news stories. Deniers also cherish insults and intentional obfuscations to complement their "Big Lie" denier propaganda.

Obviously, deniers therefore seek to discredit the Miami episode of the PBS "Sinking Cities" series, especially because it focuses on scientific research into hurricane rapid intensification, which poses a major threat to south Florida in coming years and threatens the denier propaganda campaign.

Harold Wanless, whose outspoken warnings about sea level rise makes him a prime target for denier ridicule, is the chair of the Univ. of Miami's geological sciences department. Here is his academic resume. Perhaps deniers would like to post their scientific credentials. How about the scientific credentials of the "Denier-in-Chief?"

https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1023/ML102300762.pdf

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ce/1674336002/

Here are several articles about the basis of Wanless' sea level rise projections.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion...620-story.html

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...elizabeth-rush

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8638061.html

Like all climate change scientists, Wanless is focused on rapid increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels due to 35 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions which accumulate in the atmosphere annually due to fossil fuel consumption.

https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...carbon-dioxide

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=33772

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...st-400-years1/

https://www.businessinsider.com/anta...ollapse-2018-6

Unfortunately, Wanless' concerns are well-founded, NOT clueless.

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