Financial Times: How Miami Became the Most Important City in America (Jacksonville: sales, apartment)

[elchevere]

Djesus—Do me a favor; please don’t put words in my mouth by making it appear the NYC comment you just cutted, pasted and highlighted at the end of page 3 came from me. It was a reply from someone else. I’ll take responsibility for and ownership of my posts only.…..CD edit posting error???…thanks.

[CXT2000]

Originally Posted by elchevere

Djesus—Do me a favor; please don’t put words in my mouth by making it appear the NYC comment you just cutted, pasted and highlighted at the end of page 3 came from me. It came from someone else. I’ll take responsibility for and ownership of things I state…..CD edit posting error???…thanks.

I'm aware it came from someone else, no idea why it quoted you instead of them.

[elchevere]

All good…thx

Originally Posted by djesus007

I'm aware it came from someone else, no idea why it quoted you instead of them.

[MiamiLIFE]

Originally Posted by elchevere

Djesus—Do me a favor; please don’t put words in my mouth by making it appear the NYC comment you just cutted, pasted and highlighted at the end of page 3 came from me. It was a reply from someone else. I’ll take responsibility for and ownership of my posts only.…..CD edit posting error???…thanks.

No harm intended. I own the cut and paste of the quote. My bad that it got ascribed to you.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by Marc Middleton

You said it didn't exist, so I sent you a collection of news articles from various sources.

I thought it was pretty self explanatory?

Propaganda's always self-explanatory

Please show us where the word gay appears ANYWHERE in the bill???

Fake news spewing propaganda doesn't make it true, unless the reader just believes it all, & is too intellectually lazy to try to validate any of it.

69% of Floridians support the bill, when the polls ask the questions according to the text in the bill.

DeSantis, Florida's majority, parents, & our students won again

Teachers unions, Boards of Education in the big cities, & radicals lost.

If any Floridians like K-3 children being taught raunchy age inappropriate garbage, California's keeping the lights on for you. You will be sadly disappointed by staying here because our great Goveror just cancelled you!

[Marc Middleton]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

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If any Floridians like K-3 children being taught raunchy age inappropriate garbage, California's keeping the lights on for you. You will be sadly disappointed by staying here because our great Goveror just cancelled you!

This was never taught to 1st graders or 2nd graders or kindergarteners etc . Turn off Newsmax....
Talk about me believing propaganda? because I proved someone wrong?

This bill was done solely to drum up support and keep DeSantis name in the news during an election year. The far right has to keep 'one-upping' each other like MTG saying 53 senators are pedophiles because they put through KBJ as the next justice of the Supreme Court. This week it'll be something outrageous from Bobart or Gaetz (the true pedophile who has his day coming thanks to his buddy in Seminole County). They're creating manufactured outrage to stay relevant by making it sound like 1st graders are watching Broke Back Mountain during assemblies

[beachGecko]

Originally Posted by Marc Middleton

This was never taught to 1st graders or 2nd graders or kindergarteners etc . Turn off Newsmax....
Talk about me believing propaganda? because I proved someone wrong?

This bill was done solely to drum up support and keep DeSantis name in the news during an election year. The far right has to keep 'one-upping' each other like MTG saying 53 senators are pedophiles because they put through KBJ as the next justice of the Supreme Court. This week it'll be something outrageous from Bobart or Gaetz (the true pedophile who has his day coming thanks to his buddy in Seminole County). They're creating manufactured outrage to stay relevant by making it sound like 1st graders are watching Broke Back Mountain during assemblies

Instead of using Democratic bumper sticker slogans (eg don't say gay bill), please quote from the bill and state why you're opposed to such and such. The bill gives rights back to the parents, keeping us informed, and reigning in retarded teachers who seem to think we want them moralizing to our kids on gender fluidity.

[beachGecko]

Originally Posted by djesus007

Speculation, influx of ultra rich from NY/Cali (which again, doesn't automatically mean net increase), inflation, ultra wealthy condo projects being approved = increasing land values, no limits on rent increase, etc. And yes, temporary residents are included in those numbers, and how you and others still fail to see that Miami has a lot of temporary residents from the U.S/Latin America is bonkers. And yes, a lot of units in Brickell/downtown and core areas are still empty. Maybe not as much as years ago where it was close to 20%, but it's still much higher than claimed to be. And again, I worked with the city up until a few years ago, the DDA and the city does skew numbers in terms of population and how many permanent residents live in the city.

And hey, you might be confused as to why rent went up and population went down, well... that happened in literally every major city in North America. Hell, even in Montreal, the island lost nearly 50,000! people (the metropolitan gained though) but rents on the island went up 20% YoY. Reasons? Inflation, low inventory, lack of new projects, some speculation (some new units u/c downtown are going at $1,200 a square foot, which is bonkers for our market) and real estate promoters are banking on the return of people to the island and the government promising 70-90,000 immigrants for 2022 (compared to the 6,000 QC brought in due to covid restrictions).

When I see Miami rents going up 49% YoY, it's due to the speculation, temporary residents, all the people flocking there due to lack of restrictions, zero restrictions on rent increases. Yet, locals are getting priced out, hence why the city and metro lost people and it has been increasing since 2018. Even then, I would not be celebrating a 49% increase of rent YoY, when wages have hardly gone up and majority of Miami residents are living on low wages, it's a recipe for disaster.

For people who own property in Miami/Miami Beach, the last two years have been fantastic. For those who rent, it's obviously tougher.

I can speak for myself here, I'm a permanent resident of Miami Beach, and own property in Miami Beach (my primary) as well some various locations throughout the metro which are all registered under various entities I incorporated.

I however, spend only a few months of the year in Miami, as I prefer to spend it at my properties in Europe. This is very common in my circle of friends in Miami, very few of us are permanent residents, as we don't work in Miami.

[Atari2600]

Originally Posted by djesus007

Weird seeing this and then today realising that

1. MDC lost 30,000 people, thus eliminating the notion that "people are moving to Miami in droves"
2. The tech exodus in California was greatly exaggerated (https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...dus-was-a-bust)
3. Most of the people moving there are very right-wing people, which in itself is a bad thing (and explains how quiet Miami politicians/business community was with the atrocious don't say gay bill).
4. Miami is the most expensive and unequal city in the United States now.
5. Incomes are still very low, most jobs created have been remote workers and not for locals.
6. Tech is booming everywhere, Miami's gains have been minimal.
7. The whole world is opening up again, people are going back to their old cities.

Miami benefited from all cities being restrictive, but law of averages is a real thing, so the tide will be rolling back soon. Short term gains for the 0.1% yet long term pain for locals, which majority cannot even afford to live there anymore.

Meanwhile when people scream freedom, I just look at the state of emergency in SoBe, the irony.

Hi! Just wanted to state that most of what you're saying here is entirely incorrect:


1 - Miami metro region has gained about 40,000 people every year: https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/2...ami/population. So this is incorrect.


2 - We now know that the LATIMES article is incorrect. There have been several articles on it. They based their story on population decline. There has been population growth everywhere, but a lot of that is from immigration, and not tech workers.


3 - This is obviously opinion, and really has no bearing on anything.


4 - Miami is the playground of the wealthy. But you don't have to live IN Miami, you can live outside the city limits... there is Homestead, Doral, Kendal, Coconut Grove, etc.


5 - Again... really depends on where you live. People are moving to Miami because they can afford it. Is that wrong? The city is literally made up of Cubans, Venezuelans, Argentines, and Brazilians that have fled socialism and failed states.



6 - Again, not true. Florida added more tech jobs last year than any other state in the nation. https://nypost.com/2022/03/31/florid...y-other-state/ ... most of them were in Miami.



7 - Not really true either. About 23% of the population (non-service) works "at home." For me personally, I would have thought people would want to move to areas where it's extremely inexpensive... like towns like Beaumont, TX, etc... where you can basically buy a mansion for $100k. But people seem to want to move to places that are more trendy... Miami, Nashville, Austin, etc... not what I would have done... but it's what it is. There doesn't seem to be any real move back to those cities though. New York lost a lot of residents... Florida now has a larger population than New York does... for two years straight. That's not going to revert any time soon.

[Atari2600]

Originally Posted by Marc Middleton

This was never taught to 1st graders or 2nd graders or kindergarteners etc . Turn off Newsmax....
Talk about me believing propaganda? because I proved someone wrong?

I must respectfully disagree.


I own a home in South Florida... which I will never sell... and yes, the last two years have been amazing for home values.



But I also own a home in the Tampa area, where I live now.



I will say that these kinds of topics are very common in public school, even in very Republican areas. My daughter is inundated with this stuff on almost a daily basis. More than half her friends identify as "Pansexual."


I explained to her that this isn't really a thing, but I emphasize the fact that she has to respect their right to do whatever, and that she should treat everyone with the same respect she demands for herself. I explain to her that most of this is intentional manipulation of the population from foreign influence to disrupt our society... that these are "Marxist" ideologies to label everyone with different "victim" ideologies so people can be more easily controlled.


I've explained to her that many people who fall into this narrative, such as yourself, truly believe they are doing good and supporting people, and just don't realize how they're being manipulated. I've had transgender friends and colleagues from as far back as ~20 years ago, and all this new stuff (67 genders, etc.) is unrelated, and not based in any science or logic. Most people who identify as Pansexual actually have a more severe case of Asperger's syndrome, and as such are often not able to really have a physical attraction. Pansexual has become a thing, but is not actually in the DSM (it's not a legitimate scientific or psychiatric classification).



Never the less... while I tell my daughter to respect everyone and to be friends with everyone who is nice and has things in common with her, I tell her she should allow most of this stuff to roll off her back. It's intentional manipulation, and it makes it worse when people believe they're doing it for good, because they put their heart in soul into it. As I said, we live in a heavily Republican area, and this is a very pervasive topic at school. Nearly half her school identifies as something other than girl / boy.



None of this stuff really has any business being in elementary school. Anything related to "sex" has no business being in elementary school other than actual biology (as they have for 5th graders to discuss the difference between female and male body parts).



It's not the teacher's job to be a parent, and the kids do not belong to the state.