Is the lack of English spoken by Miami's "new immigrants" a question of literacy? (credit, house)

[Bjorn_Ironside32]

Originally Posted by Eduardo983

Lie, lie, lie, the poorest immigrants were and always will be the Cubans.

South Americans bring $$$. They mainly come to Miami to invest in businesses and buy properties...

On the other hand... Cubans come illegaly on a boat..and receive free federal housing + food stamps + free college education.


Please...you talk Non sense BS...

They would assimilate more in USAs culture if Cubans would not have overpopulated Miami. Cubans scared the hell out of the U.S. Americans decades ago...

What the hell is this guy talking about?

What about the central americans coming to the US through the border? aren't those poor immigrants?

why blame cubans?

a good percentage of cubans (the ones that speak english) have great education and great paying jobs.

they're the most succesfull latino group in the city of miami.

[vpcats]

Originally Posted by Leovigildo

Vpcats

In Cuba, people already know that "Miami no es fácil". "Not easy".
People that venture there know it.
If they don't want to work, they stay in Cuba with "el invento" ("the invention").
Nobody dies of hunger there, and they are all dress up for the "fiesta".
So Cuba is packed with people and cities in which nobody works and they all survive and have fun. One of the greatest mysteries in the history of mankind.
Of course, the Cuban that goes to Miami knows he's got to work and not steal in the job.
Freeloaders prefer to be in "misiones" working for Chavez and preserving their rights and properties in Cuba than in Miami.

I think I need to move. I'm ready for a permanent vacation. Just need one of those little, well preserved and beautifully landscaped mansions you posted the other day, and I'll be all set.

[♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥]

This thread is really appalling. I don't know what's worse, those who complain that no one in Miami speaks English or those who think that their country is the best.

Why do people always have a need to feel better than others?

[vpcats]

Originally Posted by lolitazz

This thread is really appalling. I don't know what's worse, those who complain that no one in Miami speaks English or those who think that their country is the best.

Why do people always have a need to feel better than others?

Well those that think that no one in Miami speaks English are obviously wrong as you and I are great examples that there are people who do.

The others probably have very high self-esteem (which is a good thing) and are patriotic.

[Doctor Octagon]

Originally Posted by vpcats

I think I need to move. I'm ready for a permanent vacation. Just need one of those little, well preserved and beautifully landscaped mansions you posted the other day, and I'll be all set.

Yes, me too!

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by JackTheRipper

a good percentage of cubans (the ones that speak english) have great education and great paying jobs.

they're the most succesfull latino group in the city of miami.

Let's not forget WHY the Cubans are the most successful Latino group in the city of Miami.

Cubans are the ONLY immigrant group in the history of the United States who have enjoyed an open door immigration policy. There's no such thing as a Cuban illegal immigrant. If they make it to this country, they are given the privilege of staying here. And, thanks to the Cuban Adjustment Act, which has been in effect since 1966 -- that's 43 years! -- they are given assistance once they get here.

Cubans aren't any more talented or motivated or intelligent than any other Latino group, they have just enjoyed an unprecedented privileged status for 43 years.

[gymbuff]

Originally Posted by ray1945

Let's not forget WHY the Cubans are the most successful Latino group in the city of Miami.

Cubans are the ONLY immigrant group in the history of the United States who have enjoyed an open door immigration policy. There's no such thing as a Cuban illegal immigrant. If they make it to this country, they are given the privilege of staying here. And, thanks to the Cuban Adjustment Act, which has been in effect since 1966 -- that's 43 years! -- they are given assistance once they get here.

Cubans aren't any more talented or motivated or intelligent than any other Latino group, they have just enjoyed an unprecedented privileged status for 43 years.

You are right. But you also know that for teh longest time, Cubans were not allowed to go back to Cuba, not even to visit. Furthermore, Cubans cannot go back to the island to invest monety the way the rest of latin Americans can do. Sure, Cubans go to Cuba and spend money on their relatives, etc. but we cannot invest in a summer home or even dream of building a home in Cuba for our retirement the way countless of other Hispanics have done.
Another thing, yes Cubans get monetary aid when they arrive; but do you know how much the aid is? enough for groceries, a cell phone, and that's it. Nobody is leasing a car with that aid or shopping at Bal Harbor. And it is quite temporary.

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by gymbuff

You are right. But you also know that for teh longest time, Cubans were not allowed to go back to Cuba, not even to visit. Furthermore, Cubans cannot go back to the island to invest monety the way the rest of latin Americans can do. Sure, Cubans go to Cuba and spend money on their relatives, etc. but we cannot invest in a summer home or even dream of building a home in Cuba for our retirement the way countless of other Hispanics have done.
Another thing, yes Cubans get monetary aid when they arrive; but do you know how much the aid is? enough for groceries, a cell phone, and that's it. Nobody is leasing a car with that aid or shopping at Bal Harbor. And it is quite temporary.

The aid may be small and it may be temporary, but it is more than any other immigrant group has ever gotten ---- and it has been available to every Cuban who has entered the US for the past 43 years.

Whether or not Cubans can return to Cuba has no bearing on their success in the US.

[Thomas Jefferson]

Originally Posted by ray1945

The aid may be small and it may be temporary, but it is more than any other immigrant group has ever gotten ---- and it has been available to every Cuban who has entered the US for the past 43 years.

Whether or not Cubans can return to Cuba has no bearing on their success in the US.

LOL, you really do not know to much about inmigrants. The not-point-of-return factor has a huge psychological impact in every inmigrant and thus changes the way an inmigrant evolves in his new society. Have you ever think why Puerto Ricans along with Mexicans generally are in the lowest income brackets among the Hispanics even when they are the two biggest groups of Latinos in the US and have more characteristics in common with the US than any other hispanic group?

And Hey, nothing against Puerto Ricans, Mexicans or any other group, I just wanted to make a point.

Links: http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf or read the Article "Out of the Barrio: Toward a New Politics of Hispanic Assimilation."

[dadeguy]

ray1945 how do you account for the unbrideled success of cubans in other latin countries and in africa where they have no such support?

I don't wish to create an argument here but cubans seem to be gifted business people irrespective of where they are.