10-20-2009, 10:31 AM
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all of these issues will be resolved in less than a year, as the remainder of the new terminal opens
since the new administration took over a few years ago, they have made every construction deadline, even coming in ahead of schedule
10-22-2009, 07:47 PM
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I just used MIA a few days ago (American Terminals E and D). Same old same old, I didn't have access to the new terminals. There was a Pizza Hut kiosk beyond security and vending machines, pretty bad.
Comming back, immigration actually went quick (through immigration). Baggage took forever to arrive and then pass through customs. There was a lot of misorganization of people continuing on to connecting flights with the luggage...
Basically, I had the same experience I always do at MIA. Poor layout, poor food options...and I didn't see any of the positive changes....
10-23-2009, 12:27 AM
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D is the new terminal...
10-23-2009, 02:49 AM
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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Chelito23
Part two of the slogan "And even if the other airport problems don't bother you, don't drive up to FLL!" That is a good one lol. (Fly out of MIA no matter how much it sucks). Personally, I use it because of the international destinations, but if there were a convenient alternative, I would use it over MIA in a heartbeat. i.e. It wouldn't make sense for me to fly to Houston to continue on to Latin America when I can take a direct flight from here. But the day FLL improves their international lineup to include more destinations to the south, trust me, I would rather walk to FLL on my knees than keep giving MIA my business unless it is radically changed.
MIA has also lost business because of it's mismanagement, which is why FLL now has international flights to Latin America with Spirit and US Air. Atlanta is also a Latin American hub for Delta. Houston for Continental. And so on. Miami is no longer the only connecting airport...and it is obvious by the growth in the other international Latin American gateway airports that MIA has not kept up. It sat on its laurels. Of course, MIA has also relied on a steady flow of passengers with no alternatives, and even now when some people have options, they just accept the problems like you did and try to minimize them. I never understood that, it is almost like people are insecure with themselves and Miami and to criticize the city or anything here is like an attack on themself. Not all airports are this corrupt and poorly run!!! Traveling doesn't have to be this unenjoyable!!
I think a lot of people have your attitude which is why MIA hasn't changed or had meaningfully imrpovements over the years. Just because you're satisfied with a sub par airport doesn't mean the majority of traverls are. Nowadays, airports are competitive and MIA is usually ranked at the bottom for a reason.
MIA will be a much nicer and convenient airport than FLL in about 2-3 years. FLL is really not that nice, it is small its food options are very limited especially in Terminal 1 and the International Terminal which is also FLL largest airline terminal Spirit. Also lets not forget how lucky we are in Miami to have a major international airport 7 miles from Downtown. I live half the year in Washington DC and if I want to fly anywhere outside the US east coast I need to either spend $50 on a cab or take a metro and than a bus (about a 1hour trip) to get to Washington Dulles. JFK is far from the city, Denver, LAX, Chicago O Hare. We are lucky to have such a convenient airport like MIA.
Also you could not be more wrong about MIA losing business. MIA has only been growing. (post 9/11) American Airlines will have over 300 daily flights out of MIA this year the most in their 20 years of having MIA as their hub. It is American Airlines second largest hub after Dallas Ft. Worth and MIA is just about the only reason AA has not had to claim bankruptcy like most of the other large airlines. Delta hub at Atlanta and Continentals hub in Houston do not even come close to comparing to American Airlines at Miami for flights to Latin America and the Caribbean. US Airways no longer fly’s internationally out of FLL either. Spirit, Jet Blue and American Airlines are the only domestic major airlines which have International flights out of FLL.
FLL will never be able to come close to competing with MIA in international destinations since first the airlines that serve FLL don’t fly long hauls like American Airlines and 2nd FLL international terminal and customs is worse than MIA.
MIA has relied on the 2nd largest airline in the world having its largest International Hub there. That is why MIA is the 3rd busiest airport in international traffic in the United States. Also MIA is the premier airport for the airlines. MIA gets much more business travel traffic and cargo than FLL does. That is where airlines make their money. That is why MIA can charge more to the airlines. than FLL and that is why airlines like Allegiant, Spirit and Southwest fly to FLL those airlines dont offer perks and first class service like mainline airlines do so they offer cheaper tickets. Yet AA is always exremley competitive with Jet Blue and many other airlines flying the same routes they fly out of MIA from FLL.
This argument and these complaints will all be moot in about 2-3 years. One World will be in the world class North Terminal, Star Alliance in Concourse J and Skyteam in Concourse H. All very nice and modern terminals, there wont be as much complaining any more because MIA will be on par with all the other major hubs around the country. (except for Detroit that place is awesome)
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I just used MIA a few days ago (American Terminals E and D). Same old same old, I didn't have access to the new terminals. There was a Pizza Hut kiosk beyond security and vending machines, pretty bad.
Comming back, immigration actually went quick (through immigration). Baggage took forever to arrive and then pass through customs. There was a lot of misorganization of people continuing on to connecting flights with the luggage...
Basically, I had the same experience I always do at MIA. Poor layout, poor food options...and I didn't see any of the positive changes....
You were just in E the old terminal D is new and spacious with some decent food options. You could walk from D to E without going out of security. The newest and best terminal is Councourse J which is not connected to AA terminal and is used by various International and Domestic Airlines.
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10-23-2009, 06:50 AM
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Maybe I am wrong about the Terminal numbers? I am almost positive I had to use Terminal E, and I went there, and there was no access and a tiny sign said to use the Terminal D entrance. It was something like that, I just don't recall the exact letters. Whatever terminal I went to was old, but yes there was access to the other terminal. It was two floors but I stayed on the lower level. I really didn't pay too much attention to any other areas. Like I said, there was a Pizza Hut Kiosk and a Chilis To Go cooler that was empty and a nameless food kiosk, that was it. The terminal being new?? I doubt it. It looked old. I have been in the new terminals on the north end...this was in the middle. I was expecting these terminals to be like the ones on the north side, but I was disappointed when I saw they were the same. I actually ended up eating outside secuirty at that food court with the BK and Bacardi Bar.
10-23-2009, 08:13 AM
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I haven't flown out of MIA in over 8 years, I just refuse to use MIA even though I live 15 minutes south. I will drive 45 minutes north to FLL and fly out of FLL in a heart beat over MIA (I don't fly American anyways). MIA is just to much of a hassle it seemed. I took someone to MIA a year ago, waited in line with them at the AA ticket counter, what a crazy place that was. I could care less what an airport has in it, if its new or old, if its not an easy process for me to park, get to the gate and board, catch a cab, I will take a smaller airport any day.
10-23-2009, 02:49 PM
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flymia is correct, over the next 1 1/2 years mia will become far superior and more convenient than fll.
here is the upcoming time line of some openings coming up at mia:
-oct. 30 (next week) new entrance, new curbside check-in, new ticket counters
-apr '10 new rental car center opening
-jun '10 new automated baggage handling system
-aug '10 new automated in-terminal train
so in less than 10 months most major aspects of the new construction will be complete.
in 2011 the new customs and immigration will be complete, as well as the train to rental car and metrorail, plus a rebuild of the main drive through the airport
10-23-2009, 06:34 PM
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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Södermalm
flymia is correct, over the next 1 1/2 years mia will become far superior and more convenient than fll.
here is the upcoming time line of some openings coming up at mia:
-oct. 30 (next week) new entrance, new curbside check-in, new ticket counters
-apr '10 new rental car center opening
-jun '10 new automated baggage handling system
-aug '10 new automated in-terminal train
so in less than 10 months most major aspects of the new construction will be complete.
in 2011 the new customs and immigration will be complete, as well as the train to rental car and metrorail, plus a rebuild of the main drive through the airport
Exactly, also the overhead train system will be oppening in November for a few of its stations in concourse D. Add the fact that in about 2 years MIA will be newer and nice than FLL. Also of course it is closer to the city center and has more diverse amount of destinations to fly to non-stop.
I takes time to build a brand new airport over a fully running one.
10-30-2009, 09:32 PM
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Section Of New MIA Terminal To Open - Travel News Story - WPLG Miami (http://www.justnews.com/travelgetaways/21477499/detail.html# - broken link)
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11-10-2009, 02:39 PM
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Comming back, immigration actually went quick (through immigration). Baggage took forever to arrive and then pass through customs.
I just used MIA and there were also no lines in the immigration area(they had more officers than usual actually)
My bags came back right away, but they always do when I come back from Europe or fly within the USA. It is not true when I come back from Colombia for obvious reasons(drug screening) Someone coming from latin America will always experience delays with their baggage. I'm not sure if that was your case.
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Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)