Possible Dry City After Midnight (buy, ordinance, dinner)

[gixxer1000]

Originally Posted by MiamiRob

Just what we need the MORAL police now! That BP station is probably where the homeless buy all of their booze anyways and stopping it at midnight means they will just buy it earlier!

I don't care much for the moral police either but regardless of morals its a pretty decent law.

Given that the homeless are unlikely to carry around a 12 pack all day just means that they won't actually be drunk after midnight. The goal is to keep the incidents confined to the day when people feel safer.

Police officials have asked the specific BP station to not sell alcohol after midnight because of all the problems there. They refused and would rather put their profits ahead of public safety. You would think with all the problems at this station (and similar) stations they would simply do it voluntarily so that other less crime prone stations could continue to make alcohol profits. But as we have seen corporations never put public safety ahead of profits unless forced to do so. Hence the proposal of this law.

[doggiebus]

Interesting thank you for the link!

[Coconut1]

Before I even read the article I thought it sounded like a nutty moral moderating, religious idea... why? Because we have that law around here and it's the religious nuts that support it.

Originally Posted by MiamiRob

from the article:

"CBS4 News asked Dunn about the new law. He had no problem admitting he's pushing his Christian values through his commission seat."

Just what we need the MORAL police now! That BP station is probably where the homeless buy all of their booze anyways and stopping it at midnight means they will just buy it earlier!
I do think Miami Beach has a similar law but you can booze it up til 5 AM though in clubs & restaurants.

Then I saw this in the article as well.

I'm all for keeping roads and people safe, but the reasoning behind Dunn's proposal is unacceptable is should be grounds for removal from office. We cannot have nuts like this in office purposely trying to further their personal agendas.

First it's a small thing like banning alcohol sales at certain times, then it grows and grows and grows and pretty soon before you know it you're living back like they did 100+ years ago.

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;

Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist;

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

[doggiebus]

^^^That's what I worry about too. What's next then...

[Coconut1]

Exactly.

I don't disagree with getting drunk drivers off the road, or when something is done for the health of the general public (i.e.- smoking in certain places) but when something is done purely to push a 'value' of somebody else on to me, that's when I have a problem. That's another reason the whole gay marriage thing infuriates me.

As long as somebody isn't hurting somebody else, I normally don't have a problem with what they do; whether I agree with it personally or not. I think a good example is tattoos. I think they're ugly, and don't see why anyone would ever get one. Am I going to crusade to make them illegal, though? Absolutely not. If you want to ink your body up, be my guest.

[xS☺B☺s]

Originally Posted by MiamiRob

from the article:

"CBS4 News asked Dunn about the new law. He had no problem admitting he's pushing his Christian values through his commission seat."

Yeah that's what makes Miami great - all kinds of characters - a never ending telenovela.

A missionary city councilor preaching conservative christian values in the most decadent city north of Rio. Could make for a great movie. How bout a missionary goes to hell to convert the devils?

I don't know if they're still around, but we used to have Jehovah Witnesses approach us and start preaching at us while we were partying outside the Parkside in South Pointe. It was a riot. I'd relay the story but it would be gone in a minute. I'm sure you can imagine.

Speaking of movies, I just saw a movie written by Dave Barry called Big Trouble. Great Miami satire. Must see!

[matchpoint]

I was hoping a move to Miami would be haven away from clueless bible beaters in politics..

I am against this law because it seems like the first step to prohibition again--how'd that work out, btw?--and also I'm against this law because I don't want a bible beater telling me how to live my life.

[NYer75]

Originally Posted by doggiebus

So what do you guys think about the City of Miami commissioner that wants to make the City of Miami a dry city after midnight? I personally think its really funny, and don't think it will happen. Can you imagine what would happen to the Grove if this happens.
Miami Commissioner Wants Dry Law - cbs4.com (http://cbs4.com/local/Miami.Commissioner.Dry.2.1686454.html - broken link)

In Houston, liquor is off limits at 9PM. Midnight is the cut off for beer.
People will survive.

[Coconut1]

Originally Posted by matchpoint

I was hoping a move to Miami would be haven away from clueless bible beaters in politics..

I am against this law because it seems like the first step to prohibition again--how'd that work out, btw?--and also I'm against this law because I don't want a bible beater telling me how to live my life.

The Bible thumpers aren't as numerous in Miami, but like any city, they're there.

If you're looking for a warm weather, liberally tilt city, Miami isn't a bad one, and Ft. Lauderdale is probably even better.

Some Hispanics are very devout religiously which can be a problem... notice that's why Hialeah is one of the red cities in the country.

Overall though Miami Dade is still a Democratic county and won with a healthy margin in the 2008 election, also won (although with a smaller margin) in the 2004 election, and also had a healthy margin in the 2000 election.

You'll be fine in Miami with your views.

[Coconut1]

Originally Posted by NYer75

In Houston, liquor is off limits at 9PM. Midnight is the cut off for beer.
People will survive.

Of course they'll survive, but you miss the point. This has to do with this religious zealot crossing the line between government and his personal religion.

If I were Jewish and said the city of Miami can no longer sell pork because it conflicted with my views, would you be up at arms or not?

We must protect government from religion at all times.

Besides, what's to stop somebody from just driving to Coral Gables, or North Bay Village or Hialeah or one of the other cities around Miami and buying their booze there? Don't you think it's a safety hazard to have a possibly drunk person that wants more out on the road driving all the way to another city to get their fix?

The problem is enforcement of drunk driving and being drunk in public, NOT the sale of alcohol.