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Old 04-02-2011, 11:42 PM
 
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Just wondering if there's anything we can learn to help Michigan become number 1...

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Old 04-03-2011, 06:19 AM
 
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The people up there are different for sure. Have some relatives up there. Lived in Omaha. The people were my favorite part. But while the prairie has its own beauty for sure and I liked it a lot, not sure I would want to live it 24/7.

As for the economic #1. I think its just a combination of factors in the here and now, not anything that a totally different state with a totally economy can replicate.
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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The people up there are different for sure. Have some relatives up there. Lived in Omaha. The people were my favorite part. But while the prairie has its own beauty for sure and I liked it a lot, not sure I would want to live it 24/7.

As for the economic #1. I think its just a combination of factors in the here and now, not anything that a totally different state with a totally economy can replicate.
I'm not interested in Michigan becoming North Dakota, but I'm wondering what helped them get from point A to point B, and if some of that might in fact be applicable here. I tend to make comparisons to Oregon. Oregon had the same struggles as Michigan for decades. Granted much of the recovery was due to incidental economic factors affecting Portland, but not all of it.

I'm a big believer if you want to accomplish something, find someone who has already done it. Fiscal security isn't entirely the luck of the draw. I don't believe there is no hope for Michigan.... I know things can improve, but you need a plan before you can get to work and make the change happen.
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:39 PM
 
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ND's huge economic boom has come from the oil fields. Oil fields lead to people needing places to live so houses, apartments etc went up dozens at a time. More shopping needed to help the increase of population. More people coming into ND has lead to more jobs all the way around. One of the oil field areas cannot get housing for it's employees within a 2 hour drive. Campers were brought in to give temporary housing to people until more homes can be built. There is nothing ND has done that MI can do as far as the oil fields go.

MI is improving, it will just take time for all to see. It cannot change over night, but it is happening.
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:07 PM
 
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Getting rid of the arseholes in Lansing would be a good first step

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Just wondering if there's anything we can learn to help Michigan become number 1...

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Old 04-05-2011, 05:23 PM
 
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I mean no offense to those from North Dakota, but it is easier to have a low unemployment and a stable housing market when no one wants to live there.

North Dakota is easily the most isolated state, with the most severe climate. People die when they go out in the blizzards. Then after the 30 below weather, then they severe floods along the low-lying red river valley. Its total state population is about the same as it was 100 years ago.

Its easy to have high growth when population goes from 2 to 4. I'm sorry for being a smart ass.

Michigan is totally different. It is more of a urban-industrial state. Yes, by land area its mostly rural and farms, but population percentage is urban.

A better state to look at, at least in terms of economic diversification might be Illinois.
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Old 04-06-2011, 05:18 PM
 
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Getting rid of the arseholes in Lansing would be a good first step
That would be the best start right there
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:02 PM
 
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See, now this is the kind of education I need. Thanks y'all.
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Old 04-09-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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I mean no offense to those from North Dakota, but it is easier to have a low unemployment and a stable housing market when no one wants to live there.
Bingo. Canada is no different. Many living in Toronto and Vancouver fled the 'prairies.'

BTW, to those who want to get rid of those Lansing pol's ... we did, in the last election.
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