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Old 04-17-2011, 07:31 PM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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Another vote for the PNW...I have a friend in Astoria, northern/coastal Oregon and I love that whole region. I love the ocean and coast, I love the laid-back vibe, the work ethic, the friendliness and the greenery and forests. I've moved and travelled all over several continents and do have a long-range plan to move away from Michigan. There is so much I like about living here (I am not a native) but one thing I don't like is the blue-collar insulated sort of feel; maybe that's just peculiar to the parts of Michigan I have spent time in.

If I end up staying here (because who knows what twists and turns life will throw at you!) someplace further north. The people I know who live in Canada love it and I've enjoyed my visits there although I can't see myself living there.
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Mile High
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If I left MI, I'd go somewhere in the Southwest--Texas, AZ, CA, or the Front Range of CO. But if I really could go anywhere, I'd go back to Los Angeles, because even though I was raised in the piney backwoods of East Texas in a town so small it barely makes the map, Los Angeles is home. Home may not be where you grew up, but you always know where it is.
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:59 PM
 
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I've always wondered what draws people to certain area's. Prior to the fall of the economy ( so don't put job at the top) if you were going to move where and why would you go there? Would it be another 4 season state? Heat? Ocean? East? West? South? Just curious. I have never lived anywhere else, not sure I ever will. But there is an adventurous side that would like to experience living somewhere else. But I don't get why or how people decide. I mean I'd think having been there before would have to be a huge reason. As little as I have traveled......well that limits my idea's lol
I did leave and it had nothing to do with the economy - I left when the economy was better in Michigan than most places.

I left for the weather, I left because I wanted a lot more sunshine and didn't need to have a heater running more months of the year than not.

I'm still in a 4 season area but the winter season is pretty short and the summer season is long. I was going to move frequently so I could experience a lot of places and people but I ended up liking the weather so much that I just stayed.

It wasn't just for the weather but the wide open space, the longer distances between towns. And the mountains and desert. So I'm in the SW.
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Old 04-17-2011, 11:06 PM
 
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It's the short winter that sounds so good. I had annual blood work recently which showed I'm low on vitamin D. The thing is I take vitamin D all the time. Everyone knows it's bad for your skin to have unprotected exposure to the sun, but I don't think it's appreciated how no sun for months at a time is also bad for one's health. People need sun and sun with some warmth to it. I do anyway.
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Old 04-18-2011, 08:11 AM
 
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winter here in Michigan is far from sun less from November to May. But I guess so many hide their heads under a blanket and never see that sun shine. So many complain about nothing to do in the winter many do the same stuff in winter they did in the summer although in a different way.

I for one will put up with the heat and humidty here in Michigan before I would move to the south, south west and lower mid west. Not one tornado hit Michigan this week end. NC had 19 and many other states had a bunch to, 47 winter hating souls are no longer with us as a result.

My friend in Canada said that the problem with seeing a doctor is because they have NATIONAL HEALTH CARE, you can get a appointment and see a doctor if you sneeze once in a days time so with so many taking advantage of the free health care it some times takes a while to get in so don't wait till knocking on deaths door before trying.

Saw a thing on Sweden on PBS. sounds like a very nice place to live too.

Al
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Old 04-18-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Mile High
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It's the short winter that sounds so good. I had annual blood work recently which showed I'm low on vitamin D. The thing is I take vitamin D all the time. Everyone knows it's bad for your skin to have unprotected exposure to the sun, but I don't think it's appreciated how no sun for months at a time is also bad for one's health. People need sun and sun with some warmth to it. I do anyway.
Luzette, I'm in the same boat. I take Vitamin D (probably too much) and even have one of those blue lights to sit under, but it's not the same. And I don't think the lack of sunshine is appreciated, either. I've scoured medical and psychological journals trying to find studies on this phenomenon, but there is very little. I tell people all the time that if someone had come to me a year ago describing symptoms like I have experienced this past winter, I would have told them to "man up" and thought to myself that it was all in their head. Shows me.
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Old 04-18-2011, 08:43 PM
 
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It for sure isn't the same in the winter where the sun is concerned because there is no warmth in it during those months. Every year I try to store up on sunshine right through the fall until the last day I feel warmth in the rays. Whatever I store seems to hold me through November and December. I find those months tolerable and actually enjoy some snow around the holidays. I like to watch the cold weather clouds forming over the lake, and it really never gets brutally cold until after the holidays. Not long after Jan starts then I start to become depleated, and it's all down hill from there. If you had a horrible time this winter it sounds like my winter two or three years back. It just takes so long for nice weather with warm sun to show its face again.
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Santa Maria, CA
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I moved to southern NM solely because of the climate. I wanted lots of sunshine and low humidity but not the heat of AZ. I get the added bonus of some mountains here and with very little snow. The main weather complaint here is the wind but I don't really think its much more windy here than in MI but it was always accompanied with rain/snow there.

If I moved again, I might consider northern NM or CO. There would be snow in these locations but not much compared to MI and sunshine would follow snowfalls rather than the MI perma-gloom. The low humidity there combined with the sunshine just doesn't make the temps seem as cold as in MI.

California probably has the best weather in the country but the high cost of living and the political atmosphere there made it a non-starter.
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Old 04-19-2011, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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Luzette, I'm in the same boat. I take Vitamin D (probably too much) and even have one of those blue lights to sit under, but it's not the same. And I don't think the lack of sunshine is appreciated, either. I've scoured medical and psychological journals trying to find studies on this phenomenon, but there is very little. I tell people all the time that if someone had come to me a year ago describing symptoms like I have experienced this past winter, I would have told them to "man up" and thought to myself that it was all in their head. Shows me.
And "man up" is exactly the response that I get when I try to explain to people how long, gray winters affect me. My family members, which are the main reason why I live here to begin with, don't get it at all. I was at my mom's house recently and I commented about how cold and rainy it was that day. My mom turned to me and halfway yelled, "Who CARES what the weather is like? It doesn't MATTER. I LOVE having four seasons." My sister, who is truly my best friend, has said to me, "I don't even notice what the weather is like. If you keep busy you won't notice it at all." It's not like all I do is complain about the weather, in fact, everyday I make a conscious effort to tell myself how blessed I am to have the things in my life that I have, and how there are people a lot worse off than me and that there are worse places to live, weather wise. However, even with all of that, it still. gets. me. down. I have a hard time accepting the fact that SAD is a very real phenomenon because everyone around me acts like I'm just being a big baby. It's painful when the people you love don't understand you. Fortunately, by the grace of God, my dh finally not only gets it but is feeling it too. He hates this weather as much as I do and finally wants to do something about it, namely moving somewhere with more sunshine, less snow, and warmer temperatures. However, the very people that discount what I'm experiencing are the people that I would miss tremendously if we do move. It's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Anyway, Luzette and ironlady, I just wanted you to know that I can empathize with you.
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I think it's interesting to read of peoples experiences and thoughts on other places and Michigan. Not only here but talking with other people as well. I remember taking my son to the Milford indoor pool a couple years back. Not sure if it was Easter time or very early summer, but it was too cool outside to swim, had to be early summer. Anyway I recall speaking with an older gentleman who was there with his grand kids from Arizona. There were 3 of them that come up to Michigan for two months during the summer. He told me they LOVE coming here and never want to go back. So many things we take for granted or maybe don't even like these kids loved. The soft grass and the tree's were huge to them along with all the green. He said they even enjoy their visits during the winter for Xmas and love the snow. When I told him my son liked it there more than here he told me they complain there is nothing for them to do. Growing up in Michigan I guess that's one thing I tend to forget or overlook. We have lakes in our backyards, and one every other few miles in so much of the state. We played outside rain or shine unless there was lighting and rarely would we come in to the house even during the winter. I listen to my son who just turned 10 complain about how he no longer likes snow and I wonder if a warmer climate would suit him better. I feel selfish sometimes when I think to stay here because I want him to grow up like I did and hope the day comes when he realizes how much there really is to do here. I often feel guilty wondering if I failed him because his childhood is nowhere near as fun as mine was and kids these days are missing out on so much because of cable, pc's, XBox's and the fact we as parents are not home nearly as much as mine were growing up. I justify my choices because he is only 10 LOL and I can only hope one day he understands if we stay here and why we did.
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