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Old 05-01-2011, 07:34 AM
 
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Yesterday as I came out of the grocery store at the end of strip mall row a young child about 8 or 9 I am guessing ran past me. That child darted between two cars parked in the NO PARKING FIRE LANE into the main drive.
The first car was going so fast the child was missed by just a few inches. The second car tailgating and going just as fast as the first slammed on the brakes but still hit the child. Thankfully the child was just scared to death after being knocked down to the pavement.

Thankfully the women driving the car was not on her cell phone like so many either. I'm afraid I would have gotten to see a child die if she had been.
I personally am hopeing some day they make a system for cars/trucks that shut them down if a person answers a call or attempts to make a call while the engine is running.

What is so important you have to drive so fast in parking lots, where ill trained children are present?

Why do you have to park in no parking fire lane zones?

Why do you not remember that pedestrians have the right away in Michigan?

Is your being in a hurry worth hurting and even killing some one in a parking lot?

Al
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: north of Windsor, ON
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Why do you not remember that pedestrians have the right away in Michigan?

Al
Maybe so, but a brat, er, darling, of that age should know not to run into traffic.

You have a point, though. Over the years, if I asserted my right of way in Michigan as a pedestrian, I'd have been killed more times than a Looney Toon cartoon character.
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Old 05-01-2011, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
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Default I think you are mistaken

As far as I know, pedestrians do not have the right of way in Michigan - they just act as if they do. Cars and pedestrians do not mix well. All drivers must be on constant alert for crazy pedestrians, and all pedestrians must be on constant alert for crazy drivers.

No one wants to be remembered in the same manner as the imaginary anonymous driver in the story line of a 1960's era traffic safety TV commercial. "He was in the right; dead right."
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Old 05-01-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: north of Windsor, ON
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I'm guessing by the OP's name that the OP lives outstate, where pedestrians are not considered targets, like they are in SE MI. Then again, in Detroit (and Hamtramck in the old days with all the drunks coming out of the bars) the pedestrians will cross a seven lane road like Gratiot or Jefferson mid-block expecting you to stop for them.
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Old 05-01-2011, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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Many bad drivers, many thoughtless pedestrians, lots of cell phones, ya this will never turn out good. Whenever you enter public roadways, no matter how you do it your life is in danger.
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Hernando, FL
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Perhaps the MI cops need to start doing what they do in Tampa, FL. They put plain clothes officers at crosswalks and step out and if the car don't yeild they radio a cruiser around the corner and write a hefty ticket.

it's been a pretty successful sting operation.
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:57 AM
 
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Yup many A child has been spared the rod and are just plain out and out heathens to stay far from. They still should be given a chance to live yet another day because there is no reason to fly thru parking lots. those strip mall stores will be there in the 5 extra miniutes it took to park.

Never the less the cops could I am sure write a hundred tickets a day in one strip mall of people driving to fast,m parking in handycapped slots and the parking in fire zones.

On the way to my mother in laws they put in a pathway for people to walk and bike. On both sides of the busy road as you reach the cross walk there are signs saying YELD, pedestrians have the right away.

Al
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Northwest Lower Michigan
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I've wondered what the law really is. I thought you were supposed to stop for people in crosswalks until one day I nearly got mowed over by a Charlevoix city policeman while crossing at a crosswalk. He was quite a ways away when I started walking but never slowed down. I stop for people in the road, crosswalk or not, but if one day I get rearended for it I wonder whose fault it would be since maybe I shouldn't be stopping.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
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On the way to my mother in laws they put in a pathway for people to walk and bike. On both sides of the busy road as you reach the cross walk there are signs saying YELD, pedestrians have the right away.

Al
This matches what I have always thought was the rule. Pedestrians only have the right of way IF they are in a marked crossing, and the crossing signals are "green" for crossing.

Without traffic signals, pedestrians would have the right of way while in the crosswalk. But they still bear responsibility for only crossing when traffic is clear, much like a driver pulling out of a side street. Drivers have responsibility for stopping in the assured clear distance, but if there is none (an inattentive pedestrian stepping in front of moving traffic) the driver would likely not be cited.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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I'm guessing by the OP's name that the OP lives outstate...
"alleyooper" sounds outstate to you? Does that thing north of the bridge still count or did they secede since I've moved away?

The short answer is pretty clear, drivers yield to pedestrians at crosswalks, pedestrians yield to vehicles when crossing out of the crosswalk.
Rights and Duties of Pedestrians

Of course, outside the 'legal' duties, if you're a driver you would be smart to ALWAYS yield to pedestrians no matter how young / old, smart / dumb, sober / drunk they appear. You might not get a ticket from the police for hitting someone, but you can just about guarantee that you'll end up getting sued. If a jury decides you and the pedestrian were equally at fault and the pedestrian incurs $2 million worth of injuries / lost wages / future medical expense, that's still a million dollars you'd be on the hook for. Not something I'd ever want to go through, certainly not to prove some macho point about me having the right of way.
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