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Old 06-07-2011, 01:57 PM
 
Location: west mich
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You did not go far enough west in NC. I lived 90 miles southwest of Ashville for 18 years, and seldon needed AC. ( 120 miles north of Atlanta). Fact is , the winters were colder than Michigan, with the spikes in negative numbers.
It was Asheville that I checked out during one of our cold spells. Holy **** it was as cold as Michigan due to the prevailing wind direction at the time.
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We will be up there in 2 days looking for a place to live. We are looking near Holland or Grand Haven first, if we can't find anything we will look closer to GR. We are self employed and hope to actually bring a few jobs to the area if things go well. There are a lot of pessimistic posts about MI on here, but it's nice to see the "coming home" nice posts too. I'm sure my husband has idealized the area from childhood, but I am hoping it will be a nice place to raise our 2 kids.
Holland is Republican, highly family oriented. Has a growing Latino working class which swung the city Democrat last election. It's still conservative though. A bit of gang activity (not much). The city proper keeps its streets clear in winter, Allegan county not so much. Plenty more amenities and opportunities in more urbane Grand Rapids imo.
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:22 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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It was Asheville that I checked out during one of our cold spells. Holy **** it was as cold as Michigan due to the prevailing wind direction at the time.

Holland is Republican, highly family oriented. Has a growing Latino working class which swung the city Democrat last election. It's still conservative though. A bit of gang activity (not much). The city proper keeps its streets clear in winter, Allegan county not so much. Plenty more amenities and opportunities in more urbane Grand Rapids imo.
Its all about elevation. Asheville is at 3,000 feet. Can get hot in summer at times. You have to get to 4,000 for a real effect. We had lots of fog also , almost every day. The roads were narrow, and the fall was a killer....down in the valley. ( where it was raining).All our weather came from the Southwest. I remember several 30" heavy snowfalls over night. 4 x 4 was important on our mountian roads and driveways.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Its all about elevation. Asheville is at 3,000 feet. Can get hot in summer at times. You have to get to 4,000 for a real effect. We had lots of fog also , almost every day. The roads were narrow, and the fall was a killer....down in the valley. ( where it was raining).All our weather came from the Southwest. I remember several 30" heavy snowfalls over night. 4 x 4 was important on our mountian roads and driveways.
It's amazing how a little elevation can turn the Deep South into the Upper Midwest (at least from a weather perspective). I'm shocked that you got that type of weather in North Carolina, especially so close to the Georgia border.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:28 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Apparently you can even go winter skiiing in some parts. That floored me when I moved down here. But it does get that cold and snowy.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:29 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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It's amazing how a little elevation can turn the Deep South into the Upper Midwest (at least from a weather perspective). I'm shocked that you got that type of weather in North Carolina, especially so close to the Georgia border.
Yes , so true. Remember we were in the highest land east of the West. When you get above 5,000 feet it gets harder to survive yearround. 6,000 and its just too harsh to live there, but its real nice on hot summer days.( you need a jacket)..... WE were 6 miles from the Ga. line, there is a ski complex in GA.right on the line. Atlanta was only 1 1/2 hours away for our once a month city fix.
At 4,00 feet a good elevation., no bugs, and little need for AC. The problem was , for every foot of elevation the property value went up. Mountian tops were mostly owned by the Government. Our local village was Highlands, quite pricy place to live, in season. WE had few day trippers, and a lot of " summer people" who opened up their places for all summer and brought along the domestic help. Very "old" money around Highlands..... It has changed some since I left 6-7 years ago. Not sure for the better however.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:39 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Apparently you can even go winter skiiing in some parts. That floored me when I moved down here. But it does get that cold and snowy.
On weekends all the Atlanta ski-bums decended on our mountian tops. My house was across the road forn a ski hill. There were 4 ski places within 30 min. of my house, always full in season. The sking got even better north of Ashville in places like Beach Mountian. It was the highest town in the east @ 5,000, but needed more development.
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:03 PM
 
Location: west mich
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It's amazing how a little elevation can turn the Deep South into the Upper Midwest (at least from a weather perspective). I'm shocked that you got that type of weather in North Carolina, especially so close to the Georgia border.
I'm thinking that NNW to SSE is a common direction for the jet stream which would account for the similarities. The Carolinas actually get some "Canada" weather.
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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I'm thinking that NNW to SSE is a common direction for the jet stream which would account for the similarities.
Makes sense.

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The Carolinas actually get some "Canada" weather.
The reverse is also true.


YouTube - ‪Tropics of Canada on a December Day in 2009‬‏

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqLVa...eature=related

Getting back on topic, Michigan's climate really isn't that bad. Snow and somewhat mild temperatures are ideal winter weather IMO. It sure beats the freezing, bitter cold and blowing snow like Minnesota and Manitoba get.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Makes sense.



The reverse is also true.


YouTube - ‪Tropics of Canada on a December Day in 2009‬‏


YouTube - ‪Naturalized Palms on Salt Spring Island Part 2‬‏

Getting back on topic, Michigan's climate really isn't that bad. Snow and somewhat mild temperatures are ideal winter weather IMO. It sure beats the freezing, bitter cold and blowing snow like Minnesota and Manitoba get.
Always some good along with the bad. In the NC high country the upper winds often come right out of Houston along with the polluted stuff. Its killing the trees above 5,000 foot.
Here in the UP , we get most of our winter weather directly from Canada. Quite different than lower Michigan.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Macao
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I would have thought Minnesota would be like MI but without the lake effect snow and the perma-gloom of MI. What's worse about MN than MI?
I grew up in Michigan, and lived in Minneapolis for two winters.

If anyone thinks a MI winter is bad, MN are much much worse.

For one, much colder temperatures. It's standard that you have to plug in your car battery during the winter months, even if you have a garage. If you don't, during the many cold nights, it simply won't start in the morning.

I never had that problem happen in MI, ever.

The temperatures are significantly lower. Winters seem to go on much longer.

As far as cities go though, I really liked Minneapolis a lot. Would be a great city to live the rest of one's life in, except for those brutal winters.

If you watch the weather maps, it seems that MI is generally about 10 degrees warmer all winter long than MN.
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