[northernguy1960]

The now departed troll wrote:

I wish we could hang a shingle out that reads "This state is full",



I guess I'm showing my age, but this sounds like the late 70's/early 80's when lots of Michigan people left for Texas looking for work. Most, though not all, came back. From what I heard, Texas started giving jobs to their natives first and yes, it got full after awhile.

Sheesh, it's deja vu all over again! Except we're not waiting in long lines for gas. YET.

And thankfully, interest rates are still low. I remember when they reached the high teens. Hardly anyone bought a house or borrowed money. There was a housing crisis then of a different kind.

[Cliffie]

Originally Posted by Rapunzll

Look at it this way......... the more of us who leave, the less competition there will be for the few available jobs.

Exactly! And that strategy is working. I'm starting to see "Help Wanted" signs again and even new businesses opening. I even saw one yesterday in PONTIAC, people.

[100%Michigan]

I wouldnt be surprise if Michigan sees a puddle ( drop ) in its population. As I studied the growth in Michigan major cities, they all are decreasing instead of growing. It was very rare for me to find even a town in Michigan that was growing a spike in its population, this all began to worry me. Not to long ago before my time Michigan was known to be a future rich state, and very successful. Look like that hypothesis change. I dont know what happen to Michigan, and why its economy is in such a horrible position than others. As it all started to come to me, apparenlty because Michigan relies on the term Motor State. Sadly the Moter State is starting to leave, and that was what lead to Detroit population in such a big increase and other cities that was manly factored by GM. So maybe it is time for Michigan to no longer be a Moter State, because eventually as it may seem GM is moving out bla.... I just hope Michigan gets back on its feet, and the Moter to the State comes back and many other opportunities that will help the economy.

[Cato the Elder]

What's actually worrying me these days is that MI might rebound too soon - yes, you heard me right. From what I understand, the future for GM looks pretty bright. They are doing quite well overseas and their recent offerings have a much better pulse of the market than Chrysler and Ford. If GM starts to do as well as people think, then it will be business as usual in MI with no major reforms. Then in 10-15 years, we will get all the chicken little predictions again. It's starting to get a bit old.

[basco]

Originally Posted by Cato the Elder

Then in 10-15 years, we will get all the chicken little predictions again. It's starting to get a bit old.

Thats what I am worried about. The auto market is on a 20 year cycle and its taking way to long to pull out of this downward spiral. Time to leave.

[Cliffie]

Originally Posted by northernguy1960

I guess I'm showing my age, but this sounds like the late 70's/early 80's when lots of Michigan people left for Texas looking for work. Most, though not all, came back. From what I heard, Texas started giving jobs to their natives first and yes, it got full after awhile.

IIRC it was even sillier than that. Texans were pouring into Michigan, thinking there were jobs here, and Michiganders were pouring into Texas, thinking there were jobs there. In fact, nobody had any jobs to offer in either state. You still meet a lot of people around here with cowpoke accents...

[M TYPE X]

Originally Posted by Cato the Elder

What's actually worrying me these days is that MI might rebound too soon - yes, you heard me right. From what I understand, the future for GM looks pretty bright. They are doing quite well overseas and their recent offerings have a much better pulse of the market than Chrysler and Ford. If GM starts to do as well as people think, then it will be business as usual in MI with no major reforms. Then in 10-15 years, we will get all the chicken little predictions again. It's starting to get a bit old.

Much agreed. Improvement will only occur after it gets much worse.

[Miborn]

Originally Posted by northernguy1960

The now departed troll wrote:

I wish we could hang a shingle out that reads "This state is full",



I guess I'm showing my age, but this sounds like the late 70's/early 80's when lots of Michigan people left for Texas looking for work. Most, though not all, came back. From what I heard, Texas started giving jobs to their natives first and yes, it got full after awhile.

Sheesh, it's deja vu all over again! Except we're not waiting in long lines for gas. YET.

And thankfully, interest rates are still low. I remember when they reached the high teens. Hardly anyone bought a house or borrowed money. There was a housing crisis then of a different kind.

I'm with ya. Oh yes I remember the gas wars to well. down around the Pontiac area they could be scary at best. People fighting over gas.
I do know allot who moved to Texas and Florida and yes moved back to MI.

[Miborn]

Originally Posted by Cliffie

IIRC it was even sillier than that. Texans were pouring into Michigan, thinking there were jobs here, and Michiganders were pouring into Texas, thinking there were jobs there. In fact, nobody had any jobs to offer in either state. You still meet a lot of people around here with cowpoke accents...

The guys I knew going to Texas were getting jobs on the oil rigs. Dirty work but paid well.

[Cliffie]

At a crummy time like this, a job is a job. And the more oil-rig workers we have, the more everyone's Lestoil stock goes up.