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Old 10-27-2019, 09:05 PM
 
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Old 10-27-2019, 09:14 PM
 
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Not surprised.

Most people are delaying having children these days, for a variety of reasons that vary by socio-economic demographic.

I'm in my late-30s, no one I know had kids before their early/mid-30s, and I know many that don't plan to have kids at all.
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Old 10-28-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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And a lot of people in that age bracket moved out of state and aren't moving back.

Out my group of college friends, I'm the only one who's still in Michigan. (We went to college here in Michigan.)
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Old 10-28-2019, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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It's not the economy.

It's just a simple fact of industrialized nations. The richer and more "advanced" a country is, the lower the birth rate. Any family that has lived in one of those countries for a couple generations (I think data shows the first generation) has a birth rate lower than the replacement rate. The ONLY reason Europe, US, Canada, Japan, Australia, NZ, Korea grow is immigration. Korea has a fertility rate of 1.1. Japan has been below replacement since 1974.

Every country in blue below have a fertility rate BELOW replacement. And that includes immigrant families
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Old 10-28-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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Yep its a combination of broader generational trends, a combination of lower birthrates in industrialized nations, and delayed/deferral of getting married and/or having children.

As said above, we are also seeing the boomerang effect of the peak brain-drain years. The vast number of college grads, and younger educated people in the 2001-2011 ish era is now manifesting itself in fewer people now in their peak childbearing years in the state. Lots of people, now in their 30s, graduated, left the state, and never came back.
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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Michigan's birth rate hits record low
Finally, some good news! World overpopulation is the biggest threat to this planet as all environmental problems are rooted in overpopulation. Now if we can just get those other countries and cultures to increase education levels, provide equal rights to women, provide adequate health care and hope for the future, then perhaps they can reduce their birth rates as well. We need to reduce human population levels if we're ever going to live sustainably on this planet.
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Old 11-02-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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Finally, some good news! World overpopulation is the biggest threat to this planet as all environmental problems are rooted in overpopulation. Now if we can just get those other countries and cultures to increase education levels, provide equal rights to women, provide adequate health care and hope for the future, then perhaps they can reduce their birth rates as well. We need to reduce human population levels if we're ever going to live sustainably on this planet.
How many people total on the planet do you believe is a 'sustainable' level?
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Old 11-03-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Greenville, NC
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With the exception of Africa! I think we are getting less babies because of the technology and parents working at jobs and they probably don't have the time taking care of their kids. Should we get more babies in America? It would be nice. We have all the land that we can develop.
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Old 11-03-2019, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Central Mass
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How many people total on the planet do you believe is a 'sustainable' level?
About 1000000000
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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It's not the economy.

It's just a simple fact of industrialized nations. The richer and more "advanced" a country is, the lower the birth rate. Any family that has lived in one of those countries for a couple generations (I think data shows the first generation) has a birth rate lower than the replacement rate. The ONLY reason Europe, US, Canada, Japan, Australia, NZ, Korea grow is immigration. Korea has a fertility rate of 1.1. Japan has been below replacement since 1974.

Every country in blue below have a fertility rate BELOW replacement. And that includes immigrant families
If you're young, it IS the economy - specifically, the rapidly accelerating cost of housing and stagnant wages.
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