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Old 05-19-2022, 07:15 PM
 
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To elaborate on my earlier post, we should all expect that the population growth will come, and that Michigan will receive some proportion of that growth. If we receive little or none of that growth, it likely means that the state is economically stagnant (as it was while Michigan lost population in the first decade of this century). If Michigan wants to have a strong economy, it will also attract growth. I think that these two things share a positive correlation. It's the responsibility of the state and the people in leadership positions to manage that growth, and to make sure that sprawl doesn't become significantly worse than it already is.

The places that do well to manage growth in the coming decades (e.g. Seattle) will be a lot more successful than those which manage it poorly (e.g. Houston, Phoenix). Those later two places are going to struggle significantly with things like keeping up infrastructure, resource allocation, and in Houston's case, dealing with the consequences of weather events.

If Michigan's economy booms, and the state gains a further two million people during the next twenty years, what do you think it'll look like?
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Old 05-19-2022, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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To elaborate on my earlier post, we should all expect that the population growth will come, and that Michigan will receive some proportion of that growth. If we receive little or none of that growth, it likely means that the state is economically stagnant (as it was while Michigan lost population in the first decade of this century). If Michigan wants to have a strong economy, it will also attract growth. I think that these two things share a positive correlation. It's the responsibility of the state and the people in leadership positions to manage that growth, and to make sure that sprawl doesn't become significantly worse than it already is.

The places that do well to manage growth in the coming decades (e.g. Seattle) will be a lot more successful than those which manage it poorly (e.g. Houston, Phoenix). Those later two places are going to struggle significantly with things like keeping up infrastructure, resource allocation, and in Houston's case, dealing with the consequences of weather events.

If Michigan's economy booms, and the state gains a further two million people during the next twenty years, what do you think it'll look like?
What is going to boom the economy? I left MI in '08 when even gas stations and adult bookstores weren't hiring. It was depressing when even smut peddlers rejected you.
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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What is going to boom the economy? I left MI in '08 when even gas stations and adult bookstores weren't hiring. It was depressing when even smut peddlers rejected you.
Fortunately Michigan didn’t freeze in time since 2008. A 14 year old cemented impression/opinion may not be the best barometer for the current or future state of anything.
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Old 05-20-2022, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Central Mass
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Looking at the facts:
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor is at 5.4M
GR is at 1.4M

The next biggest "Michigan" CSA is South Bend-Elkhart with 809k. It includes Niles!

Lansing at 550k
Kalamazoo at 503k
MBS at 376k (but shrinking)
Mt Pleasant at 110k (and shrinking)
Marinette-Iron Mountain at 92k (also shrinking)

That's all the CSAs in Michigan. South Bend is almost at 1M already, and growing at 1.4%, it should reach 1M in 2036.

Lansing is growing twice as fast and will be the next CSA that's fully in MI to reach 1M. At 2.9% growth, in 2036 it'll reach 866k and 1M around 2041.
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:04 AM
 
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What is going to boom the economy? I left MI in '08 when even gas stations and adult bookstores weren't hiring. It was depressing when even smut peddlers rejected you.

Oh, come on now. Things most certainly didn't stay that way!
But I hope you enjoy Arizona.
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