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Old 12-23-2008, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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renewable energy is an OK idea,...windmills are not, aside from just plain ugly there are many other reasons. Nuke is the way to go, it is the best, but unfortunately the enviro terrorists control all thought process's today, hence, we shall use 15th century science. Just wait until they get control of the agri biz.......... famine for everybody....HOORAY!
Windmills are not OK? Then why are they building wind farms all over the globe, including a bunch in Michigan? Investments by huge energy companies too. Please elaborate?

Nuclear is fine with me too.
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Old 12-23-2008, 05:49 PM
 
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Windmills are not OK? Then why are they building wind farms all over the globe, including a bunch in Michigan? Investments by huge energy companies too. Please elaborate?

Nuclear is fine with me too.
One reason is they can not get permits for nuclear in the US.
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:35 PM
 
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they are also using .........FOOD....for fuel...................please explain.............
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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Even though nuclear power does have some major issues with disposal of spent fuel, it is a relatively clean energy source. I'm not necessarily opposed to nuclear, I just want it to be absolutely safe for everyone. There can be no screw ups in this area whatsoever.Chernobyl disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aside from the fact that they can be costly to build(I have read articles that put the price in the $25 billion dollar range),they are also burdened by a social stigma; the "Not in My Backyard" syndrome. It's been my observation in life that as long as its happening to someone else, I'm okay.

Lets say we took the $25 billion(the cost for a nuclear power plant)and divided it by the $10,000 dollar cost of the Windspire, installed by the woman in St. Ignace. That would come out to approx. 2.5 million Windspires. If you divide that number by the 50 states, you would have 50,000 homes per state saving the environment by lessening their footprint on this earth, consolidating on a renewable energy source and helping to put people to work. Wind isn't the answer to all of our energy needs but it's a step in the right direction.

To put it in a different perspective, the $700 billion dollar bailout that congress approved for the financial people on Wall Street would have bought 70 million Windspires which comes out to 1.4 million people for each state. That would damn near cover every homeowner in the US!

There will be many ways to go and wind will be one of them.
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Michissippi
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Here's a YouTube video showing what is supposed to be a vertical axis wind turbine in a field:


YouTube - Vertical Axis Wind Turbine
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:19 AM
 
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ugly!!!!......you say...."not in my backyard"?...........have you priced real estate up in Charlevoix lately. Look to ...dare I say it.....France................

another thought.....there is all the wind in the world out in the middle of the ocean, when is the last time you saw an aircraft carrier with a wind mill.....or even sails? Did I mention submarines????
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Old 12-25-2008, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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Getting just a tad bit ridiculous now aren't we walls! Not quite sure what you're getting at by the price of real estate in Charlevoix? Obviously, there are restrictions to where wind can be used or Solar for that matter. If you really stop to think about the damage that man has done to the environment in the last hundred years, what do you think will be around in the next hundred if we keep going on like we are? All I'm saying is, we have to keep our minds open to different things. If you're not open to different then get out of the way!

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