Let's discuss: Up-or-out and career ladders in the U.S. military as they relate to the 20-year retirement

[GeorgiaTransplant]

Originally Posted by Themanwithnoname

And?

Got a couple buddies who are Amtrak's. One who is paralised from the waist down from a Mortar round near Haditha dam.

I STILL give them hell about not being grunts.
(And they fire right back)

Your point?

"POGES, REMFers, or Fobbits"

are not typically used as terms of endearment, at least in the Army.

[bs13690]

Why shouldn't it be up and out? Should someone stay around at the rank of E-5 who hasn't tried to get promoted for over 10 years?

[bellhead]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaTransplant

"warrant pay should be brought up to between o-5 and o-6 with annual pay rate increases with years of service."

You're seriously saying that junior pilot warrants should be paid more than a LTC who may be a Battalion Commander or primary Division staff officer...

If that's all you're saying,

/facepalm

If you're also seriously saying (see bold) that junior Signal or Intelligence or Maintenance warrants should be paid more than Lieutenant Colonels, well,

/facepalm
/facepalm



(that's a double dose of facepalm for you)

Yes, just because somebody who is in charge of several hundred people doesn't make him any more valuable than a specialist.

The U.S. won the war in ww2 "we would have won anyway it would just have taken longer" in 4 years because of several thousand technical people. They were the code breakers, crypto analysts, intelligence people, a few nuclear scientists and our own comm people whole comm circuits were not compromised.

Also look at the civilian side of things. Lawyers make more than mid level corporate types which is what a LTC is = to. Also pilots make more than they do. I am not talking about everybody making more than 0-5's but a few should.

[AJBarney]

Originally Posted by bellhead

Yes, just because somebody who is in charge of several hundred people doesn't make him any more valuable than a specialist.

Thanks for the laugh, I needed one today.


When you have finished up a command tour of 'several hundred people,' come on back and tell us how you did. Until then, you are just wasting electrons here.