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Old 07-01-2012, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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My brother was born on a military base in England back in 1971. Both our parents are US citizens and my dad as in the navy at that time. First question: does he hold a dual citizenship?
2nd: Is he an automatic US citizen or did he have to get some kind of certificate stating he is a US citizen?

The reason why I am asking here is because I cannot get hold of him to ask him myself and I need the info for a security clearance for work. Thanks for any replies.
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Old 07-01-2012, 05:58 PM
 
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Was he born on an American military base? If so than he was born on US soil and I do not think he would have dual citizenship.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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He was born on a military base.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:39 AM
 
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No he doesn't have dual citizenship the SOFA treaty rules spell it out.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:11 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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He does not have dual citizenship, but its got nothing to do with whether he was born on base or not. For him to have dual citizenship one of the parents would have to have been a U.K. citizen.

He's a U.S. citizen so you don't have to worry about question #2. One of my kids was born in the U.K. and we had to do a 'Report of Birth Abroad' through the embassy. The certificate serves as a birth certificate.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:19 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Was he born on an American military base? If so than he was born on US soil and I do not think he would have dual citizenship.
That is not U.S. Soil.

"Foreign Affairs Manual, 7 FAM §1116.1–4: "Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to U.S. jurisdiction and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth."
Foreign Affairs Manual
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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That is not U.S. Soil.

"Foreign Affairs Manual, 7 FAM §1116.1–4: "Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to U.S. jurisdiction and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth."
Foreign Affairs Manual
So John Maccain could not have legally become president. If he was not born on US soil than he could not have become president. Am I wrong?
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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So John Maccain could not have legally become president. If he was not born on US soil than he could not have become president. Am I wrong?
If one is born outside the USA to an American parent and that American parent can prove that s/he lived in the USA at least 10 years in which 5 of those years were above the age of 14, then the child/person is an American citizen from birth.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:05 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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If you are born to US parents then you are a US Citizen.... whether or not the base is US Soil is not the point. Let's say you are pregnant, go on vacation, and deliver early in another country... Your kid is still a citizen. Otherwise, they'd have to go through a giant immigration process.

HE IS A CITIZEN!!!!!!
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Hawaii/Alabama
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My eldest son was born in Frankfurt. I was 20 and his father was 19. My DH had lived in Germany (as a Military dependent) since he was 13 until he enlisted in the Army at 18. I joined the Army when I was 18 and we were both sent to Germany - so neither of us had lived in the US for 5 years after the age of 14).

My son was issued the same paperwork that Goodmanm mentioned above. He is a Citizen born to American parents Serving in the Army abroad. IF we had chosen to do the paperwork he could have held dual citizenship (a great many Army parents did this and I saw the paperwork with my own eyes- they thought it was "cool"), but we wanted no other citizenship than American.
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