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Old 12-04-2012, 07:40 AM
 
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I am a recruiter. We can often get history of depression cleared, but it depends on the timeframe, severity, and symptoms, as well as the actual diagnosis. The best thing to do is get your medical records and have the recruiter submit them BEFORE you go to MEPS. You can probably get an answer by submitting your records.

For me, MEPS was easy, I had only had a broken leg and tonsils removed. MEPS is not harder and stricter than anytime in the past, but if you pass the portion where you turn in paper records, you have a great chance of passing at MEPS.

Agree and disagree with this. It really depends on the CMO of your MEPS. Recruiting a state with two MEPS, it was well known what one CP might clear, and theother would DQ. Also, when on CO died his repalceemnt was way more stricter. Less likely to use personal judgment and grant waivers, by the book to the "V", pass T. So much so she got a CONGRINT for DQ'ing people she should've qual'ed, and push back from Bethesda for passing stuff out of house that she should've cleared herself.

So I agree that the rules have not changed, but just disagree in the aspect that the manner they are enforced varies from MEPS to MEPS.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Between West Chester and Chester, PA
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LOL! sorry for asking and posting again. Eh, past history of depression is what I might get DQ'd. But I haven't even started ASVAB yet. I also want to see if I can qualify by ASVAB. But I also even bought ASVAB book to prepare for ASVAB. And I don't want to waste money that I cannot do an ASVAB test even if I bought the book to prepare and study for it.

My concern is attempt to try the ASVAB and so on process and see if I'm DQ'd with proof of clear records off of past history depression.

Or if I'm just second-guessing right off the bat that I know I'm DQ'd, should i be doing something else than having hopes of joining the AIr Force Reserve? I'm really determined to qualify and join AF Reserve but, i feel I'm just gonna be disappointed if I did disqualify. And I don't know MEPS digs for records. How do they find things?. Do they ask for what is your insurance or what insurance you use.

I just had advice from my family doctor/physician and she said I should do something else than AIr Force. She says I won't be fit and says the DQ may be the history of depression. I kinda feel upset about hearing about it and she said think about it before I go enlisting or to do the process.

Even if I have past history of whatever depression, it was not major depression. i never had suicidal thoughts.

or I'm thinking don't attempt to do the ASVAB and process and wait another year?

It sucks that past conditions may disqualify me. I don't have any other DQ conditions. And other than that I'm not even ready for ASVAB because I want to aim a good score.
I stopped reading after seeing you have a history of depression. Don't even join since you have a history of it. That will be the worst thing you can do with your life. A depressive person in the military is a terrible phone call/notice waiting to happen. I've had to escort suicidal airmen numerous times, and I have also seen how they're treated thereafter. It's not pretty. They basically goad the person into being successful the next time they try it. The military does NOT care about you. To them, you're another sucker, another number.

After experiencing what I had witnessed numerous times as well as other things, I woke up. I ended up separating after a year and a half. It was the best decision I have ever made. Do something else with yourself. It's not the end of the world or your life if you don't serve this country. The way the DoD thinks is what's actually broken. It's not all of those current and former servicemen and women who don't go along the with pack, or have ventured into deep, dark places within their minds.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:42 PM
 
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I am a recruiter. We can often get history of depression cleared, but it depends on the timeframe, severity, and symptoms, as well as the actual diagnosis. The best thing to do is get your medical records and have the recruiter submit them BEFORE you go to MEPS. You can probably get an answer by submitting your records.

For me, MEPS was easy, I had only had a broken leg and tonsils removed. MEPS is not harder and stricter than anytime in the past, but if you pass the portion where you turn in paper records, you have a great chance of passing at MEPS.

@dmarie123, thanks for your reply. Oh awesome that you are recruiter. How do you like your job? I'm not sure if my depression situation will be cleared but I never had suicidal thoughts or those rock bottom stuff. My depression is minor. I did tell psychiatrist that I'm fine since he asked me questions. I'm no longer on meds for quite a long time. But I might wait one more year or so. And I'm willing to not give up. My interest of thinking Air force or military been thinking about it 2 years till couple of months from now.

Thanks for the Meps tips. I'm not sure how MEPS is for females and males. I heard about the duckwalk. lol. As for Females going to meps, is it group of females doing duckwalk or examination or they see each individual female one at a time?

That's good that MEPS was easy.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:48 PM
 
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I stopped reading after seeing you have a history of depression. Don't even join since you have a history of it. That will be the worst thing you can do with your life. A depressive person in the military is a terrible phone call/notice waiting to happen. I've had to escort suicidal airmen numerous times, and I have also seen how they're treated thereafter. It's not pretty. They basically goad the person into being successful the next time they try it. The military does NOT care about you. To them, you're another sucker, another number.

After experiencing what I had witnessed numerous times as well as other things, I woke up. I ended up separating after a year and a half. It was the best decision I have ever made. Do something else with yourself. It's not the end of the world or your life if you don't serve this country. The way the DoD thinks is what's actually broken. It's not all of those current and former servicemen and women who don't go along the with pack, or have ventured into deep, dark places within their minds.
@Creature of the Wheel,

I'm over my depression. I'm cleared off those things. The reason I wanted to join military is learn new skills in military life and willing to take challenge. But yeah I can understand that mostly likely Depression history may or will be disqualifier. I don't have suicidal thoughts or never done harm.

But anyways how was your MEPS experience? What branch are or were you in ? I hope you did enjoy some time at the branch you were in. Sorry to hear about your story about experiencing things. Well aside from thinking of military or air force reserves, I'm still currently job searching. I am not really in a rush. But generally it is hard to get a job nowadays.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:53 PM
 
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Agree and disagree with this. It really depends on the CMO of your MEPS. Recruiting a state with two MEPS, it was well known what one CP might clear, and theother would DQ. Also, when on CO died his repalceemnt was way more stricter. Less likely to use personal judgment and grant waivers, by the book to the "V", pass T. So much so she got a CONGRINT for DQ'ing people she should've qual'ed, and push back from Bethesda for passing stuff out of house that she should've cleared herself.

So I agree that the rules have not changed, but just disagree in the aspect that the manner they are enforced varies from MEPS to MEPS.
@Macjr82, thanks for your reply. Hmm. Well I haven't attempted to the enlistment process so I guess I may wait a couplemonths till another year. I'm also job searching as well.
As for MEPS, for example if I was disqualifed from one branch at MEPS, does that mean I'm disqualified from all branch of services?

I heard about contacting the congressman if getting DQ'd at Meps and it was from other forums i have searched.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:13 AM
 
Location: Between West Chester and Chester, PA
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@Creature of the Wheel,

I'm over my depression. I'm cleared off those things. The reason I wanted to join military is learn new skills in military life and willing to take challenge. But yeah I can understand that mostly likely Depression history may or will be disqualifier. I don't have suicidal thoughts or never done harm.

But anyways how was your MEPS experience? What branch are or were you in ? I hope you did enjoy some time at the branch you were in. Sorry to hear about your story about experiencing things. Well aside from thinking of military or air force reserves, I'm still currently job searching. I am not really in a rush. But generally it is hard to get a job nowadays.
I did MEPS during the summer of 2000 to enter into the Delayed Enlistment Program for the USAF. It was a long, boring day where I came close to passing out after the blood draw. I was close enough to passing out that everything began turning green. My saving grace was the lovely cold room where we all sat to listen to some crap about what we all were going into, and we were signing more paperwork. After it was said and done (thankfully), I think the entire day lasted 14 to 16 hours.

No need to apologize for my experiences. I've come across more people throughout the years who also got out for the same reasoning as I. Like I said, it's not the "different" people who are jacked up. It's the DoD's draconian way of thinking. I don't know what universe they're thinking is derived from.

Like organized religion, they like to control people through fear mongering. Instead of Hell being used to frighten people, it's Fort Leavenworth. I had been threatened with it more than I can remember. I laughed in the faces of those who screamed at me that I will end up there. I still laugh about the entire notion to this day.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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I did MEPS during the summer of 2000 to enter into the Delayed Enlistment Program for the USAF. It was a long, boring day where I came close to passing out after the blood draw. I was close enough to passing out that everything began turning green. My saving grace was the lovely cold room where we all sat to listen to some crap about what we all were going into, and we were signing more paperwork. After it was said and done (thankfully), I think the entire day lasted 14 to 16 hours.

No need to apologize for my experiences. I've come across more people throughout the years who also got out for the same reasoning as I. Like I said, it's not the "different" people who are jacked up. It's the DoD's draconian way of thinking. I don't know what universe they're thinking is derived from.

Like organized religion, they like to control people through fear mongering. Instead of Hell being used to frighten people, it's Fort Leavenworth. I had been threatened with it more than I can remember. I laughed in the faces of those who screamed at me that I will end up there. I still laugh about the entire notion to this day.
@Creature of the Wheel, Thanks for your sharing. Awesome that you went to MEPS during summer 2000. How do you like USAF? I was hoping to join Air Force...but age limit is til 27/28 and I'm already past that age. Reserves is up to 34. Did you sleep in hotel in MEPS? How was taking the ASVAB like?

I wish you luck in USAF. Hope you are enjoying it there.
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:49 AM
 
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Thanks for the Meps tips. I'm not sure how MEPS is for females and males. I heard about the duckwalk. lol. As for Females going to meps, is it group of females doing duckwalk or examination or they see each individual female one at a time?
For me, it was a group of females and not individually. I think there were like 12 of us. We all knew it was coming and then we all laughed like crazy after doing it. It made it more fun and less awkward being in our undies around strangers.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:44 AM
 
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Hey guys, I was wondering at MEPS. Can you be able to pass if you have a no signs of any asthma after the age of 13. If so is there any waivers for it?

And I have been told by many people to not tell the recruiter about any medical condition, but in reality, I don't know who to believe.
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