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View Poll Results: Do you Agree with the Pentagon removing the ban on women in combat?
I do agree. Women should be allowed in combat. 21 55.26%
I do not agree. Women should not be allowed in combat. 9 23.68%
I'm not sure, it would depend on other factors. 7 18.42%
I do not care. 1 2.63%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-25-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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As much as I was critiquing females being in INFANTRY, this can be a good thing for MOSs like EOD where females who hold the job but are limited in assignments and thus have to compete harder for promotions.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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Let's see. I want to force myself on a woman in my stick who is trained to kill/disable and who is carrying heat.

I DON'T THINK SO.
No one is talking about forcing anyone.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Let's face it, 1 out of maybe every 500,000 women can do 42 pushups.
Out of true curiosity, I have watched some Marine JROTC students in the recent past few years. You have some real verifiable statistics on this? Otherwise I can't "face" your statement...
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:22 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Out of true curiosity, I have watched some Marine JROTC students in the recent past few years. You have some real verifiable statistics on this? Otherwise I can't "face" your statement...
Have you ever met a 18 year old girl who can do 42 pushups because I havent. Most girls that age would probably struggle to do 20.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:18 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Better yet... Should all women be required to register for Selective Service at 18 years old ?

If they can serve in combat, why not register for the draft ?
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:25 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Have you ever met a 18 year old girl who can do 42 pushups because I havent. Most girls that age would probably struggle to do 20.
Yes. My granddaughter when she was 18, and could still do them at age 20... Some of her female friends also... Full military pushups... That is why I am wondering where you got your data. I guess there is no verfying "Let's face it, 1 out of maybe every 500,000 women can do 42 pushups."
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:39 PM
 
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I have never encountered a woman who could do 42 push ups, and I was the PRT coordinator for my command that had a considerable amount of females. I am not saying there are none, because I know there are, but the number is most likely small compared to how many men can, not even all men can do 42 push ups.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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If you would have asked me after my first couple of deployments I would have adamantly said NO way.
I would like to see just how well women would do in such capacities, daily( not just FST or lioness). I have witness women in combat, I may not have been throughly impressed but I have also witness men outside my community in combat and felt the same way.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I have a suggestion. Set up a test. Make the women who want to do this serve in an all women's unit, and test their effectiveness for 5 years. Then see how it works. Putting them in mixed units would mean that the men will shoulder a large share of the burden to compensate for female weaknesses. Sports ought to give anyone enough proof that women cannot compete with men on an equal basis if physical strength is a factor.

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Old 01-26-2013, 01:55 AM
 
Location: Tioga County
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I'll comment here. There's a long history of the Armed forces making reality fit "the plan". In other words, if there's not enough females in combat arms 5 years down the road, "Uncle" will the necessary asdjustments so there are more. I also have not seen in this plan any mention of using the same pt standards for both men and women of the same age; that would seem like the fair thing to do.

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