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Old 05-03-2015, 08:27 AM
 
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Hi im 16 years old i am a guy and i am currently in the USNSCC program i am interested in joining the military when i turn 17 i have my parents aproval but i am confused with in whic military branch or service i should be part of and have some few questions. I want to be a Registered Nurse (RN) bachellors degree of 4 years and i want to join the Air Force or Navy ROTC program so i could graduate and be a registered nurse for the navy or air force and at the same time be an officer and i also like they pay for my college and give me a sign up bonus. When i finish my BS on nursing i still be Air Force ROTC or Navy ROTC or join as an active duty member? Also can i join any branch reserves (Army , Navy , Air Force ) when i turn 17 and my time starts counting for the 20 year retirement plan while recieving the sign up bonus and monthly pay while i study and pay my own college tuiton? Which service is better for me for what i want to do Nursing , Air Force Navy or Army ROTC or reserves i know deployments are for everyone and mandatory on all branches but if i could be in the most (secure) and not too many much deployments that would be great. Also for the reserves you have to take the ACT or SAT test to be considered? What is the main difference between ROTC and Reserves and which benefits are better for me? Thanks in advance guys! Hope to hear from your experiences as military nurses which branch has treated you better etc and also from people on the reserves and ROTC programs. I would request a 4 Year Scholarship on the ROTC program also i heard there is a scholarship for nurses
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Old 05-04-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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You have a lot of questions packe in there.

Don't be in such a hurry. Talk to the ROTC folks at the college/s you want to attend, and see who has the best program for you.

Also find out who the nursing recruiter is for your area and speak to him/her.


The army resrves has a simultaneous membership program, in which a ROTC cadet can be in a reserve unit. So yes, you can enlist and then go to ROTC.

Your reserve time will not count towards your 20 years of active duty time for retirement.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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I can speak to Army ROTC, Army active duty, and Army Guard/Reserves. The other services, I don't know much about their program. Your best bet is to go see a recruiter at an ROTC unit of each of the services, which has a nurse unit. There are far fewer Air Force/Navy ROTC units than Army, but Army is starting to shed units, also.

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Hi im 16 years old i am a guy and i am currently in the USNSCC program i am interested in joining the military when i turn 17 i have my parents aproval but i am confused with in whic military branch or service i should be part of and have some few questions.
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I want to be a Registered Nurse (RN) bachellors degree of 4 years and i want to join the Air Force or Navy ROTC program so i could graduate and be a registered nurse for the navy or air force and at the same time be an officer
[quote=robj103;39467406 and i also like they pay for my college and give me a sign up bonus.[/quote]

They don't do both. In fact, they may do neither. The Army either pays for tuition/fees or simply allows you to participate. While actively contracted (which you don't get right away unless you're a scholarship winner), you get a stipend-a pretty decent little chunk of money (a few hundred a month) while in school, but it's not even slightly enough for all expenses.

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When i finish my BS on nursing i still be Air Force ROTC or Navy ROTC or join as an active duty member?
Once you finish your BS, you either go active or Guard/Reserve. The competition is usually for an active slot; if you ask for Guard/Reserve, you will usually get it, but it's always going to be needs of the Army. A very few ask for an are offered 'educational delay' (at their own expense) to do further graduate education.

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Also can i join any branch reserves (Army , Navy , Air Force ) when i turn 17 and my time starts counting for the 20 year retirement plan while recieving the sign up bonus and monthly pay while i study and pay my own college tuiton?
You can join the Army Guard/Reserve and do that, if you know you want to be Guard/Reserve. I don't recommend that plan: most people tend to gravitate to active duty as their preference, and that drill weekend always seems like the worst possible weekend in college (just before a final, etc.)

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Which service is better for me for what i want to do Nursing , Air Force Navy or Army ROTC or reserves i know deployments are for everyone and mandatory on all branches but if i could be in the most (secure) and not too many much deployments that would be great.
If you don't want to deploy, I can't recommend any service. Don't do this if that is even slightly on your mind. All services are about deployment lately.

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Also for the reserves you have to take the ACT or SAT test to be considered?
No. ASVAB for enlisted; be enrolled full-time in an accredited degree program at a school that offers ROTC for ROTC.

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What is the main difference between ROTC and Reserves and which benefits are better for me?
ROTC provides officers to the services and its members are full-time students working actively to a degree; Reserves provides trained and equipped formations to deploy, and its members typically need to have a full-time job.

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Thanks in advance guys! Hope to hear from your experiences as military nurses which branch has treated you better etc and also from people on the reserves and ROTC programs.
The Army ROTC nurse program is excellent. But be prepared to work hard, and after you commission, deploy.

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I would request a 4 Year Scholarship on the ROTC program also i heard there is a scholarship for nurses
That's a possibility. But it's not a given; it is competitive to get a scholarship, there are other people who want it, too, and some are pretty good. To be competitive you need to be pretty good at just about everything and interview with a PMS extremely well. You can have some areas of weakness depending on your school-it's not quite as competitive as the Academy, but it's still pretty competitive depending on the quality of the school.

Not every nurse Cadet gets a scholarship, and even some that do get what's called a '3-year AD' (Advance Designee). Basically, you have to do it all for your 1st year at your expense and tuition begins to get paid 2d, 3d, and 4th year.
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Hi im 16 years old i am a guy and i am currently in the USNSCC program ...
When I was 16, I was in Sea Cadets. The leader tried to convince me to go to the Naval Academy [he had the connections]. I was also offered a scholarship to Bell-Howell [who later became Devry].

My last year in Sea Cadets I went through a 2 week course at Groton Subase to get a taste of the Submarine Service. That was where I found my calling. I enlisted at 17 1/2 and ended up serving for 20 years.

Whatever you decide, have fun and good luck
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I'm currently in the Army Reserves --

Had several friends in Basic Training who were 68W's ("Health Care Specialist", basically a Medic). Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you actually get RN certs upon completion of the medic training. Or, at least, you just need to take a test at the state-level. Some of my friends who went 68W with the Reserves or Guard got jobs as paramedics straight out of training.

That said, I would suggest one of two paths:

1) Go Active. You'll get much more experience, learn a lot more, and enjoy it more. I constantly regret not going Active Duty.

2) Sign up for the Reserves / Guard, then do ROTC on top of it. Reserves has a program called SMP (Simultaneous Membership Program) that allows you to do both. I believe it's also offered for National Guard. I'd suggest doing 68W, to stay in the field you're interested in. Here's the tricky part: to make life easier, you'll want to find a college with a Nursing program near a reserve / guard unit with 68W positions (preferrably in your home state). While in school, you'll still be expected to go to Battle Assembly (drill weekends), and it makes life easier when you're not commuting hours away for a weekend of work. There are a few drawbacks with SMP, however. You'll want to ask a recruiter the specifics (talk to ROTC directors as well), but I believe you won't qualify for a 4 year ROTC scholarship if you're in SMP. As well, Tuition Assistance is paid out based on how much consecutive time of Active service you have. Going straight into the Reserves or Guard, you won't have any Active service, so you will qualify for very little Tuition Assistance.

Personally, I'd suggest going Active as a 68W -- getting your 4 years out of the way, so you qualify for the full amount of tuition assistance, and you'll walk away with all the training and experience of 4 years in the field. Then, when your contract is done, go to a school with a good ROTC program and a nursing program. With prior experience, ROTC should take you in as an MS2 or MS3 (basically, a sophomore or junior in the program -- you get to skip the first few semesters). As well, the college might recognize your military training and experience towards some credits (not sure if nursing programs have things like required Red Cross courses, but you could get something like that waived). As well, if the program requires things like "1 semester cooperative learning" -- where you spend one semester working in a hospital, in the field, they might be willing to waive that as well. With those requirements waived, you might be able to jump into college half way done with your bachelors, AND half way through the ROTC program. Finish your 4 year degree in 2 years, fully paid for by the military, and come out as a reenlisted officer.
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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@Cab: You are mistaken. Medics take the National Registry EMT test. 68Ws are not nurses, nor do they get nurse's training. The mosy advanced medics are LPNs, but they are far from being RNs, nor are there very many of them.
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:50 PM
 
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@Joe: Thanks for the information. I was basing that statement off of friends who are 68W's, and got paramedic jobs. I believe they got things like red cross certifications, which led them to paramedic jobs, but I'm not in the medical field, and couldn't tell you the difference between an RN and a paramedic.
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Old 05-04-2015, 07:26 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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@Joe: Thanks for the information. I was basing that statement off of friends who are 68W's, and got paramedic jobs. I believe they got things like red cross certifications, which led them to paramedic jobs, but I'm not in the medical field, and couldn't tell you the difference between an RN and a paramedic.


68W - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"68W (often pronounced as Sixty-Eight Whiskey using the NATO phonetic alphabet) is the Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) for the United States Army's healthcare specialist, also known as the combat medic. "


The Army page for 68w
Health Care Specialist (68W) | goarmy.com

I believe there are certain certifications for 68W, but I don't recall what it was, and am going out the door.
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Old 03-06-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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My sons are also sea cadets and looking at this kind of service during their college days.
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Old 03-08-2016, 07:42 AM
 
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Thanks to all guys im joining the Army ROTC as a nursing student didnt got the scholarship but will participate anyways thanks'
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