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Old 05-28-2015, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Pérouges
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Hello all.

My sections and I returned from Sahel a few days ago and before coming home I had to do the usual operational returns (forms, interviews etc.) On this occasion I had to write an account of an officers actions over the previous deployment and to give a judgement on his suitability for promotion. He was not from our regiment but another regiment in the Legion. This is common practice as we often mix and match sections on deployment so an officer can/will be in command of soldiers from different regiments quite often. He is a Lieutenant (first lieutenant) and seeking promotion to Capitaine (Captain). He was with us for 1 week in Calvi then 3 weeks in Sahel.

Anyway, what I was wondering was... Do NCO's in the US (and any other countries that people know of) have a similar system where their input makes a marked difference? We have a point system and if the officer falls below it they don't get it. 2 out of the 3 NCO's reporting (the Senior NCO from his section his Adjudant Chef (CSM) and I) have to give positive reviews. 2 negatives from 'us' would give enough negative 'points' to seriously dent if not end his career as you can only be put forward as a field or combat officer twice. The wait after the first rebuff can be several years and a higher point score is required.

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Old 05-28-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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Do NCO's in the US (and any other countries that people know of) have a similar system where their input makes a marked difference? We have a point system and if the officer falls below it they don't get it. 2 out of the 3 NCO's reporting (the Senior NCO from his section and his Adjudant Chef (CSM)) have to give positive reviews.
No. There is no such system in the U.S. Military.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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No. It is worth noting there really is no match for the American military today and this probably is within the equation.
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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About as close as you can get is if the rating officer or senior rater ask his NCOs for input. But that will be unofficial.

Platoons are cross attached to different company teams all the time. In my specific case our tank company was normally pure in exercises, not in teams of armor and infantry like the rest of the battalion task force. However my platoon was often attached to the battalion scouts or the first platoon was attached to the divisional cavalry squadron, leaving a two platoon tank company. And if the task force had Vulcan support they were normally attached to my company. But the purposes was not to give the officers a different bunch of soldiers to lead as a test
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Old 05-29-2015, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Pérouges
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About as close as you can get is if the rating officer or senior rater ask his NCOs for input. But that will be unofficial.

Platoons are cross attached to different company teams all the time. In my specific case our tank company was normally pure in exercises, not in teams of armor and infantry like the rest of the battalion task force. However my platoon was often attached to the battalion scouts or the first platoon was attached to the divisional cavalry squadron, leaving a two platoon tank company. And if the task force had Vulcan support they were normally attached to my company. But the purposes was not to give the officers a different bunch of soldiers to lead as a test
Nice reply.

This process, that you describe, is the same as the one operated in the rest of the Army in France. I think the system we use in the Legion came about as we very rarely deploy in anything larger than company strength, even then we will have several attachments from other regiments. Operationally we are built around the task, we don't often have units large enough to take in all specialisations. For us the ability for an officer, or indeed a senior NCO to have cross unit abilities is important. In this instance we are airborne and he was from our engineers, as it happened he was good. He still remembered how to be a 'proper' Legionnaire.
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