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I'm currently am trying to join the army my record is expunged I told the recruiter I didnt have a record because it was expunged. But I was also to by a higher authority that I would not have to disclose my expungement because it was dropped I don't want speculations I need an actual for sure truth so I can know if I need to tell my recruiter
An expungement will not show up on a typical civilian background check; it is frequently written into the laws of various states that you can say, "no" if you are asked if you have ever been convicted of a crime. Government agencies have access to databases that civilians don't have access to, so your arrest and expungement will show up. I'm not a recruiter, but whether you can enlist or not depends on what the offense was and how long ago it was.
You smoked pot with Johnny Hopkins once, you can say no to that.
You got arrested for but not convicted of a crime, you better say something or your butt is toast.
I had a super minor infraction as a juvenile, no cuffs, no courtroom, and I was told I didn't have to worry about it. So I didn't include it on my paperwork to join the military. They found out, and they were pissed, might have kicked me out had it not been such a stupid arrest and my careerfield in such high demand at the time.
I'd tell the truth, if it's a crime that dq's you from military service, so be it. But if it's just a minor thing tell them and they'll waiver you in if your solid elsewhere.
If the conviction is recorded in the National Crime Information Center (NCIC), then expungement order or not chances are it is still there. Who can see/access the information is another matter.
Sealed records like expunged does not usually mean a conviction is reversed, just that the records are not available to the general public. In the former access is restricted an the latter usually means destroyed. It varies by jurisdiction and some use the terms interchangeably to mean pretty much the same thing.
Have seen various applications where persons are asked to list *all* criminal convictions including those with sealed and or expunged records. They further state if the latter two have happened the applicant must consent to making said records available.
Take away message is neither sealing nor expunged records remove a criminal conviction; just make the information difficult to get at.
If you were applying for a job at the local Piggly-Wiggly I wouldn't bother, but since this is the military we're talking about play it safe and mention it to your recruiter and see what he has to advise.
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Tell the truth (they don't ask you if you have a "record", they ask if you've been arrested) or you could face a heap load of trouble later on. Lying is worse than the offense. If you can't get in with your past that's called consequences. Welcome to the real world.
They don't ask if you have a record, they ask if it happened. Expungement doesn't mean it didn't happen. You must disclose it. The FBI background check will come back showing the record.
Tell the truth (they don't ask you if you have a "record", they ask if you've been arrested) or you could face a heap load of trouble later on. Lying is worse than the offense. If you can't get in with your past that's called consequences. Welcome to the real world.
Many employers used to do the same thing until some state and or local laws forbade directly asking about arrests. Then they switched to asking about criminal convictions and now that seems to be going away in some places as well.
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