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Old 07-20-2022, 01:21 PM
 
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https://www.military.com/daily-news/...-recruits.html

Just the facts. 77% don’t qualify without a waiver.
23% do qualify without a waiver, and that equates to millions of young people. Look, I already posted it upthread. Out of the people who do qualify, and also have the inclination to serve, that is 1.8 million people.

So quit with the nonsense that there isn’t enough physically able people to serve. Something is stopping them from serving, and we all know what it is, but the people on the blue team can’t admit it.

 
Old 07-20-2022, 01:38 PM
 
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23% do qualify without a waiver, and that equates to millions of young people. Look, I already posted it upthread. Out of the people who do qualify, and also have the inclination to serve, that is 1.8 million people.

So quit with the nonsense that there isn’t enough physically able people to serve. Something is stopping them from serving, and we all know what it is, but the people on the blue team can’t admit it.
You're misreading the statistic. The DoD has zero data on what proportion of the general enlistment age population would be able to enlist without a waiver.

The data they have in hand is the percentage of people who have attempted to enlist that qualify without a waiver.

They have no data on the qualifications of people who have no interest in enlisting, and it can't be validly speculated that the young people who have no interest in the military are otherwise statistically identical. It can't be validly speculated that the qualified 23% of those who were interested in enlisting equates to 23% of the general population.

People who are not interested in enlisting most likely have other preferred options...because not needing waivers gives them other options in the civilian community as well.
 
Old 07-20-2022, 06:19 PM
 
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So quit with the nonsense that there isn’t enough physically able people to serve. Something is stopping them from serving, and we all know what it is, but the people on the blue team can’t admit it.
I don’t about this “we” you speak of, but until you provide some, you know, evidence, you’re just a partisan hack spreading misinformation.
 
Old 07-20-2022, 06:40 PM
 
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Some more light reading: https://medium.com/@andrewdziengeles...ne-ae365d66f25
 
Old 07-20-2022, 06:45 PM
 
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And even more: https://thehill.com/opinion/national...s-must-fix-it/
 
Old 07-20-2022, 07:23 PM
 
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Here is a situation, though. From your link:

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Stabilizing the all-volunteer force goes beyond bonuses. The number of Americans qualified to join the military is getting smaller. Of the nation’s 31.8 million 17- to 24-year-olds, only 9.1 million meet the initial requirements. Of those, only 4.4 million meet academic requirements. The pool is further reduced by those who have police records, drug/substance abuse issues, or are obese. These factors rapidly shrink the initial pool of 31.8 million to about 465,000 attractive recruits, many of whom will have opportunities in the private sector.

Further, because an individual may be qualified to serve does not equate to a willingness to serve. Recent Department of Defense survey data show that when young people are asked, “How likely is it that you will serve in the military?” only 11 percent responded “definitely” or “probably.” Recruiting is not helped when 52 percent of parents do not recommend military service to their offspring.
The situation is that only about 11 percent of possible recruits have ever been interested in enlisting...even during WWII. And it's been a lot lower than that, such as in the early 70s right after the draft and the Vietnam War ended.

So the real shortfall is not in interest, it's in qualification. The same 11 percent is interested, but far, far fewer of the interested are qualified.
 
Old 07-21-2022, 02:35 AM
 
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I’m not gonna waste my time anymore on the indoctrinated minds in this forum. 2 years ago, recruiting was fine, and it will be fine again in the future.

Just need more time for the Afghan surrender to fade away, and then elect an actual leader as our Commander in Chief. Doesn’t really matter which party, but someone that the troops respect.
 
Old 07-21-2022, 06:24 AM
 
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Funny, the Army met 2021 goals. No one is saying that there isn't an issue, just that the conclusion you automatically assumed truly shows who the "indoctrinated" person is.

The kids today have grown up in a different world than you. LGBTQ is just a part of their lives.
 
Old 07-21-2022, 06:26 AM
 
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Speaking of indoctrinated:

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It absolutely was not an insurrection, and it’s laughable and disingenuous to even suggest such a thing.

Not a single shot was fired at the government, or any government official.

The Capitol was left unsecured, and Ray Epps told a guy to breach the barricades and he was the first that went in. Some people were even let into the Capitol by security. Many didn’t even know they weren’t allowed to go in there.
 
Old 07-21-2022, 06:31 AM
 
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More facts from the USAREC website:

RECRUITING CHALLENGES

Labor market: Most challenging labor market since the inception of the all-volunteer force
Awareness: 50% of youth admit they know little to nothing about military service
Qualified youth: 71% of youth do not qualify for military service because of obesity, drugs, physical and mental health problems, misconduct, and aptitude
Family business: 79% of recruits have a relative who served
Disconnect with society: Only 1% of the population currently serves; veteran population is declining
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