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Old 11-16-2022, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The Air Force announced Wednesday that it is getting rid of BEAST week during Basic Military Training, the four-day-long deployed war exercise that has been a staple of the service's boot camp for the last 16 years.

BEAST week, which stands for Basic Expeditionary Airman Skills Training, will be replaced by a new exercise. Trainees will still go out in the field, but it will last for only a day and a half.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...9Q6dVpDXz1RG8s

The demilitarization of the military continues. BEAST week was great, and I’m alarmed to see it go.

As an Air Force veteran, I can’t recommend anyone to join this current military.
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Old 11-16-2022, 08:48 PM
 
Location: SC
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It going away doesn't seem like a big deal this early. I just now had to look up what went into the four day BEAST week; I hadn't even heard of BEAST, which appears to have started after I went through in '06 when it was still Warrior Week. It looks like it wasn't too different, only being a bit more of a "You're in a war zone!" simulation.

Quick research shows the original FTX that they created was 12 hours, then 24 hours, then 36 hours, then they created the week-long Warrior Week, and then they shortened it to the 4-day BEAST. Thinking back on what things we were only exposed to for the first time at Warrior Week or learned there that we hadn't really gone over too much in classes before that week, most of that can easily be crammed into the new 36-hour PACER FORGE. They wouldn't need near as much time on something like weapons familiarization as when I went through Warrior Week because that was before trainees started being required to carry the dummy rifles around everywhere; that is something that they seem to be hammering home through the entire duration of BMT now. BMT has also increased in length, from 6.5 weeks to the current 8.5 weeks.

As soon as I saw the name PACER FORGE my brain associated it with the URC-119 Pacer Bounce system. I imagine that will be hard in the future to keep those separate in my head, as a comms guy. PACER FORGE already sounds better than BEAST though, which sounds more at home in something like Army or Marine boot camp than anything AF-related.
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Old 11-17-2022, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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It has been said it is the US Chair Force. Does this continue that thinking?
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Old 11-17-2022, 06:26 PM
 
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Eh - no big deal. They can get trained at their permanent stations - if that is their mission
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Old 11-18-2022, 01:33 AM
 
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In 1990, there was no such warrior or beast week when I went through.

Doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. You will get all the pre-deployment training before your first deployment anyway. Not to mention all the exercises you will participate in.
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Old 11-18-2022, 01:35 AM
 
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It has been said it is the US Chair Force. Does this continue that thinking?
Some career fields are office related, some aren’t.

I used to maintain B-52s in my first career field. Definitely no Chair Force out on the flight line.
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Old 11-19-2022, 04:11 AM
 
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I thought deployment training in the Air Force included mixing drinks and hooking up the satellite TV and internet?
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Old 11-22-2022, 07:06 PM
 
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I thought deployment training in the Air Force included mixing drinks and hooking up the satellite TV and internet?
Nah, we don't have to hook that stuff up ourselves. That's what the Space Force is for.
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Old 11-23-2022, 03:35 AM
 
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Nah, we don't have to hook that stuff up ourselves. That's what the Space Force is for.
Glad you realized it was just good natured ribbing between forces.
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Old 11-23-2022, 03:42 AM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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I thought deployment training in the Air Force included mixing drinks and hooking up the satellite TV and internet?
It does!
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