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Old 12-13-2023, 05:08 AM
 
Location: NH
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I would absolutely do it all over again. My son has always been very proud of our military time and has always looked up to the military because of it and I really thought he would join after high school but he wants nothing to do with it. Not going to lie, I am a little disappointed that he is choosing college instead. We can thank the military for where we are in life right now and there are so many additional benefits that to me, its a no brainer for such a short commitment.
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Old 12-13-2023, 05:20 AM
 
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I would do it again. Moved me from aimless teen to focused adult.

In today's world I would offer $12K off student loan for each year served.
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Old 12-13-2023, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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Yes I would do it all again.
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Old 12-13-2023, 05:48 AM
 
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If I could go back to 1978 and make the decision to enlist, absolutely yes I'd enlist again.


I fully intended to go 20 years, but separated during the Bush draw-down in 1992 when it was represented to me that I could leave voluntarily and take some $$ with me, or hang around and maybe not see any $$ when following year... because in my career field, I was gonna get tossed. All that changed, of course, and I could have stayed. But even had I known how how the next 30 years would play out, given the circumstances, I would have done the same thing.


I spent all but 4 of my adult working years in the DoD, retiring from CS in early 2021. I might still recommended a first hitch for somebody with no firm idea of what they wanted or where they wanted to go... but absolutely not for someone who has dreams of building their life around a 20 year career.
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Old 12-13-2023, 06:09 AM
 
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Unfortunately, there are about 58,000 servicemen from the Vietnam war era who are unavailable to answer this poll question because they didn't survive the war. My guess is that most of them would vote "No" if they were somehow able to respond.

There are probably another couple hundred thousand who sustained serious injuries during Vietnam who would likely vote "No" also.

And what did we accomplish over there other than killing tens of thousands of our young men and severely wounding a couple hundred thousand more? Not much as far as I can tell.

Sure, military service during peacetime is a great experience for many people who would have little to no chance of seeing the world or getting an education otherwise, but for those who spent time wading through jungles or living in foxholes in subfreezing weather, you might get a different response.

All that said, I'm glad that we have people who VOLUNTEER to serve today.
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Old 12-13-2023, 08:23 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Which all brings up the question that is sort of the "hanging chad" here....
How can we civilians tell the difference between Vietnam, which wasn't necessary, and Kuwait/Desert Storm, which was?
Lots of people bring up Vietnam, but no one talks about Desert Storm, or Neptune Spear, which killed Bin Laden.
People bring up Vietnam, which fell and later became an ally, but never talk about South Korea, which, thanks to the US, stood and became enormously successful.
We soldiers and sailors don't get to choose. We don't really know which wars will come out well and which ones won't. And we can't fade ourselves in and out like holograms. The bugle calls; we go.

Theirs is not to question why. Theirs is but to do and die.... Ironically, those lines were written while describing a disastrous charge in Crimea - an event likely to happen again, albeit without the presence of Americans.
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Old 12-13-2023, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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That depends.

Do it again with the ME I was when I was in, now? Probably not......if my family commitment was not there. If the family commitment was, of course.

If I was a ME raised in these times? Well, truthfully, I don't know for I don't know what kind of person I would be. BUT, this rather exists in the same sphere for me of asking me to be a cop. Would I be a cop in the current world? NOT A CHANCE.......and I am afraid the military world is now similar, where you can be crucified for any little mistake......even in the course of making sure the job gets done......

.......to say nothing of how I think about security matters. Example: for a security exercise, I suggested that the strike team be of the ethnicity commonly found as janitors and to be dressed as janitors. Why? When the police questioned the office staff afterwards, there was a good chance for a layer of invisibility to be achieved because white collar tend not to see such people. (Defence to this: question the regular janitors as well for they will see who doesn't belong).......

Tactically, a sound if not a brilliant approach.......but how likely is anyone to remain in the military who thought like that, for any reason?


EDIT: Something else as well, that is just isn't part of the current era. When Abu Ghraib broke, the Captain I did security under asked me what I would have done had I been in charge. If I had stayed in, that could have been me with close to 20 years. I know the rules, one does not torture prisoners, and I would had either not obeyed those orders or incomptently obeyed them. If I was lucky, I would have been relieved and dismissed from the service, kissing a 20 year retirement good bye.



But, between one aspect of being destroyed from the inside (SWOS in a Box??????) or by politicians are not there to hold the bag, it is not a very inviting world to be in.

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Old 12-13-2023, 10:14 AM
 
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Sad, disturbing poll results of veterans to future recruits, and obfuscation by the Army on poll results

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X85V...esBreakingNews
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Old 12-13-2023, 12:27 PM
 
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yes
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Old 12-13-2023, 12:28 PM
 
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No. I wasn't in for very long (three years in the late 80s, given an early-out option) and I didn't appreciate my time in, so I didn't accept any of the benefits.

But having seen my daughter marry into the military, they don't take care of our active duty very well, nor their families. I can't tell you how much trouble my daughter has getting medical care for their children through Tricare, and sometimes he isn't paid on time. It's a disgrace, and I would never suggest anyone join now.
how is he not paid on time?????
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