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Old 10-31-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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OP, hope you're convinced not to live outside of Milwaukee by now
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Old 10-31-2017, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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So, let me get this, you're not racist, but when you think of people of color you automatically associate it with crime?

Old joke: I hate racism and blacks!
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Old 10-31-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Portland OR
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[quote=ARrocket;49896256

You are essentially saying that minorities who face this kind of stuff should "get over it" and not let it bother them, however:

1) You're denying the fact that there are improvements to be made on "your" side, and
2) It's so easy to say "get over it" when this is something that you've literally never had to go through and never will.

So myself, and others, are simply warning the OP that when you move to a place that is not very diverse at all (like Waukesha County), you're going to get a lot of this stuff. That doesn't mean that Waukesha isn't a great place to live (if you're into suburbia) or that the OP can't have a great life there.[/quote]



Meh - there are always improvements that can be made by anyone. It is called the human experience and life. I can be better too. I am sure OP and you can be better in some regards too. Perhaps upon reflection, some of these experiences are WAY overblown. Is that not possible in at least some instances?

I maintain that within the grand scheme of life; the idea of "non-diversity" is a small topic that always gets overblown by those who want to get on with an agenda.


I do appreciate your comments although I don't have a "side." I call out silliness when I see it - white or black, left or right.
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:54 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I maintain that within the grand scheme of life; the idea of "non-diversity" is a small topic that always gets overblown by those who want to get on with an agenda. .


It's pretty small to me too, but I'm a white straight male and having that background, understandably, diminishes its importance. I actually have to think about it, while if I was a POC it would be staring me in the face every day.
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Old 10-31-2017, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Park Rapids
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Milwaukee is the most segregated city in the country. The Buck stops there. Configuration of race relations begins there and spills out to the surrounding counties.

Last time I checked Waukesha had a pretty good Mexican population going. Don't think anyone is stopping anyone from moving into Waukesha.

Brookfield gives the County a bad reputation, the rest of the area is just fine.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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Perhaps upon reflection, some of these experiences are WAY overblown. Is that not possible in at least some instances?
Sure. But 9 times out of 10, it's not.

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I maintain that within the grand scheme of life; the idea of "non-diversity" is a small topic that always gets overblown by those who want to get on with an agenda.
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It's pretty small to me too, but I'm a white straight male and having that background, understandably, diminishes its importance. I actually have to think about it, while if I was a POC it would be staring me in the face every day.
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Old 11-02-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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So, let me get this, you're not racist, but when you think of people of color you automatically associate it with crime?


Good grief. There are just no words.
If liberals are so accepting and tolerant of minorities, then why are blacks and Hispanics doing so badly in liberal places like Madison and Minneapolis? Last time I visited Madison, blacks and Latinos were confined to small pockets of the south and the north side in apartment complexes. it's funny how minorities fare better in "racist" republican states like Texas and Louisiana. Liberals only care about minorities every four years and nobody is preventing minorities from moving to the WOW counties. I know of plenty of blacks that live in Menomonee Falls who do just fine. https://fascinationhub.wordpress.com...of-madison-wi/
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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75% of Black children live in poverty in Madison. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't the worst in the entire US. Almost twice as high as Milwaukee.

Bachelorette is correct concerning Blacks moving to and prospering in Red States such as Texas, Georgia and North Carolina. They are fleeing Illinois, NYC, California in large numbers.

A few days back the Journal/Sentinel ran a story with results from a University of Wisconsin survey on how well minority students feel accepted at Wisconsin. The results showed many blacks students don't feel entirely welcomed or fit in.

Maybe Madison needs to stop being preachy and self righteous when it comes to race.

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Old 11-03-2017, 10:13 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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If liberals are so accepting and tolerant of minorities, then why are blacks and Hispanics doing so badly in liberal places like Madison and Minneapolis? Last time I visited Madison, blacks and Latinos were confined to small pockets of the south and the north side in apartment complexes. it's funny how minorities fare better in "racist" republican states like Texas and Louisiana. Liberals only care about minorities every four years and nobody is preventing minorities from moving to the WOW counties. I know of plenty of blacks that live in Menomonee Falls who do just fine. https://fascinationhub.wordpress.com...of-madison-wi/


Societal institutionalized racism and decades or centuries of it.


And poor people get by better is cheap, poor, states. Shocking. But where is your data that they "fare better"? Define, "faring better"?


And you know "plenty of blacks", that's half a step a way from saying "I have a black friend so I can't be racist" card.


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Bachelorette is correct concerning Blacks moving to and prospering in Red States and cities such as Dallas, Houston, Atlanta and North Carolina. They are fleeing Illinois, NYC, California in large numbers.


They are? Where do you get this?


And if this is the case, might you think it is because those places are super cheap? Maybe?
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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If you don't realize that blacks are moving to Atlanta, Dallas, Houston and North Carolina, then your living in a cave. If you want I can go through all the trouble and find plenty of links that explain the large growth of blacks in these states and areas, but do I really have to bother, I think you know this.

Again, how many more articles do we need concerning blacks leaving, NYC, Chicago, LA and San Fran. Do I have to find these to?

People move to where they believe they have the best chance of having a decent life. If you call this cheap then so be it.
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