07-21-2018, 08:48 AM
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What is the "pertinent information"? Who defines the "pertinent information"?
Are you serious? Any information he uses to form policy on behalf of the country is pertinent information. Would you like to argue otherwise? That he shouldn't form policy based on established data and historical context? i would say knowing how things like NAFTA or NATO actually work before you try to blow them up would be pertinent.
Those aren't inconsequential issues and it isn't 'street smarts' not to know how they work. The thing is, other countries outside of the US know he is lying and uninformed. Unlike Trump supporters, these countries have some self-respect, and aren't just going to accept someone lying to them everyday about things they know aren't true.
Trump supporters try to pretend like Trump is playing '3D' chess or using 'street smarts' to make themselves feel better about voting for a buffoon. It literally only works because you guys are sycophants.
07-21-2018, 09:10 AM
Location: Portland OR
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Are you serious? Any information he uses to form policy on behalf of the country is pertinent information. Would you like to argue otherwise? That he shouldn't form policy based on established data and historical context? i would say knowing how things like NAFTA or NATO actually work before you try to blow them up would be pertinent.
Poppycock.
thanks for playin.
07-21-2018, 05:51 PM
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Poppycock.
So this is what playing chess with a pigeon feels like. I'm hoping you didn't poop on your keyboard to complete the experience.
07-21-2018, 05:56 PM
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07-25-2018, 11:33 PM
Location: Portland OR
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On that note: I think Walker's association with Trump is going to hurt him. A lot of republican governors and candidates are abstaining from Trump (for politiical reasons I'm sure) due to his unpopularity, but not Walker.
I don't believe this is true. In many, (not all) recent elections, Trumps endorsement has been very effective and helpful. In WI anyway, I don't see Walker having much risk by palling around with Trump. The people that don't like him now would never vote for him anyway and 99% of people that like him now won't change their mind because he likes Trump. Indeed it would be much bigger risk to distance himself from Trump.
If Walker wants reelection, he needs to be viewed as part of Republican leadership and, like it or not, Trump is leader of the R party right now.
07-26-2018, 01:04 AM
Location: WI/MN resident
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I don't believe this is true. In many, (not all) recent elections, Trumps endorsement has been very effective and helpful. In WI anyway, I don't see Walker having much risk by palling around with Trump. The people that don't like him now would never vote for him anyway and 99% of people that like him now won't change their mind because he likes Trump. Indeed it would be much bigger risk to distance himself from Trump.
Keep believing that
07-27-2018, 01:18 PM
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Keep believing that
Would you be willing to elaborate?
I tried to list reasons why I think Walker will be OK for reelection by aligning with Trump (for WI anyway).
I know you personally don't like either of those guys but why do you think Walker's aligning with Trump is a bad move politically for his reelection?
Do you think people that previously voted for Walker will move away from him because he likes Trump?
Do you think people that did not vote for him last time would vote for him now if he distanced himself from Trump?
I could be wrong but for most of population; I don't think either of these questions can be answered yes. I have not lived there for a while but I try to stay pretty close to pulse of that state.
I think its a low risk for him.
08-01-2018, 10:54 AM
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Would you be willing to elaborate?
Maybe for the first time, I agree with you. Republicans aligning with Trump have done well at the polls.
The few real conservatives that were left have mostly decided to not run again instead of completely selling out and aligning with him.
08-04-2018, 09:41 PM
Location: WI/MN resident
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Would you be willing to elaborate?
Here's an example from a republican-leaning voter in this article:
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...ons/365172002/
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Jim Wesp, a business owner in West Bend, said he was deeply bothered that Walker turned into a Trump supporter after once trying to rally opposition to Trump's nomination (an about-face made by virtually the entire GOP establishment). “He dropped out (of the presidential primaries), stood up, and said, ‘We need to do something. This is bad.’ And then became a (Trump) supporter. You totally abandon principle! … It’s going to make it really hard for me to support Scott Walker,” said Wesp, who has voted for Walker in each of his previous races.
There will be a lot of anti-Trump sentiment in the midterms this year, so much of it that even republicans and independents *may* turnout for democratic candidates. Trump even performed poorly in the WOW counties in 2016, and a lot of republicans have performed poorly in suburbs since Trump got elected (see West Bend in the article). Polls show Walker is lagging behind his potential democratic challenger (probably due to his failed far-right policies) Tony Evers, but those polls could be inaccurate. Never know, but Walker is considered one of the least popular governors in America, and this is the FIRST TIME he will be running for reelection during a possible blue wave cycle. Dems have flipped three seats (including winning a statewide race), the most for any midwestern state this year. Sorry, but I really don't think the "blue wave" has crashed like people think, and I really don't think Wisconsin is going the way of Missouri and turning into a deep-red state. The blue wave may be temporary, but it is a reflection of the Trump Administration.
To answer your questions: No, I do not think people who has previously voted against Walker will suddenly vote for him even if he distanced himself from Trump. I think those voters will still vote for Walker's democratic challenger because of the anti-Trump sentiment. I think local politics is started to mirror national politics.
But yes, I do think that SOME swing and republican voters will distance themselves from Walker not only because he is associating with our bully in-chief (as evidenced by the person I quoted), but also because of Walker's failed policies. I stand by this, and many people I know agree with me.
In addition, Trump's approval ratings are HORRIBLE here in Wisconsin right now. That is bad for 2020 because rust-belt battleground states (such as WI) were key to helping Trump secure the electoral vote.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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