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Old 09-13-2008, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side, Milwaukee
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I was perusing the Milwaukee forum this evening and there is quite a bit of dispute as to the size of the city of Milwaukee and Metro Milwaukee in comparison to other places. So I thought I'd do some leg work that anyone wishing to refer to such information can have a reliable source.

Here are the US Census Bureau's 2007 Estimates:

METROS (all over 1 million) CITIES (all over 300,000)
1. New York City 18,816,000 1. New York City 8,274,000
2. Los Angeles 12,876,000 2. Los Angeles 3,834,000
3. Chicago 9,525,000 3. Chicago 2,837,000
4. Dallas 6,145,000 4. Houston 2,208,000
5. Philadelphia 5,828,000 5. Phoenix 1,552,000
6. Houston 5,628,000 6. Philadelphia 1,449,000
7. Miami 5,413,000 7. San Antonio 1,329,000
8. Washington D.C. 5,306,000 8. San Diego 1,266,000
9. Atlanta 5,279,000 9. Dallas 1,240,000
10. Boston 4,483,000 10. San Jose 940,000
11. Detroit 4,468,000 11. Detroit 917,000
12. San Francisco 4,204,000 12. Jacksonville 806,000
13. Phoenix 4,179,000 13. Indianapolis 795,000
14. Riverside, CA 4,081,000 14. San Francisco 765,000
15. Seattle 3,309,000 15. Columbus 748,000
16. Minneapolis 3,208,000 16. Austin 743,000
17. San Diego 2,975,000 17. Fort Worth 682,000
18. St. Louis 2,804,000 18. Memphis 674,000
19. Tampa 2,724,000 19. Charlotte 672,000
20. Baltimore 2,668,000 20. Baltimore 637,000
21. Denver 2,465,000 21. El Paso 607,000
22. Pittsburgh 2,355,000 22. Milwaukee 602,000
23. Portland 2,175,000 23. Boston 599,000
24. Cincinnati 2,134,000 24. Seattle 594,000
25. Cleveland 2,096,000 25. Nashville 591,000
26. Sacramento 2,091,000 26. Denver 588,000
27. Orlando 2,032,000 27. Washington D.C. 588,000
28. San Antonio 1,991,000 28. Las Vegas 559,000
29. Kansas City 1,985,000 29. Louisville 558,000
30. Las Vegas 1,836,000 30. Portland 550,000
31. San Jose 1,803,000 31. Oklahoma City 547,000
32. Columbus 1,754,000 32. Tucson 526,000
33. Indianapolis 1,695,000 33. Atlanta 519,000
34. Virgina Beach 1,659,000 34. Albuquerque 518,000
35. Charlotte 1,652,000 35. Fresno 471,000
36. Providence 1,601,000 36. Long Beach 467,000
37. Austin 1,598,000 37. Sacramento 460,000
38. Milwaukee 1,544,000 38. Mesa, AZ 453,000
39. Nashville 1,521,000 39. Kansas City, MO 450,000
40. Jacksonville 1,300,000 40. Cleveland 438,000
41. Memphis 1,281,000 41. Virgina Beach 435,000
42. Louisville 1,234,000 42. Omaha 425,000
43. Richmond 1,213,000 43. Miami 410,000
44. Oklahoma City 1,193,000 44. Oakland 401,000
45. Hartford 1,189,000 45. Tulsa 384,000
46. Buffalo 1,128,000 46. Minneapolis 377,000
47. Birmingham 1,108,000 47. Colorado Springs 376,000
48. Salt Lake City 1,100,000 48. Raleigh 376,000
49. Raleigh 1,048,000 49. Honolulu 376,000
50. Rochester 1,030,000 50. Arlington, TX 371,000
51. New Orleans 1,030,000 51. Wichita 361,000
52. St. Louis 351,000
53. Santa Ana 340,000
54. Tampa 337,000
55. Anaheim 333,000
56. Cincinnati 332,000
57. Bakersfield 316,000
58. Aurora, CO 312,000
59. Pittsburgh 311,000

MUNICIPALITIES IN WISCONSIN
(all over 15,000 / % growth 2000-2007 / in Metro Milwaukee)
1. Milwaukee 602,191 1%
2. Madison 228,775 8%
3. Green Bay 100,781 -2%
4. Kenosha 96,265 5%
5. Racine 78,805 -3%
6. Appleton 70,017 0%
7. Waukesha 66,762 3%
8. Eau Claire 64,980 4%
9. Oshkosh 64,592 2%
10. Janesville 63,012 4%
11. West Allis 59,763 -2%
12. La Crosse 50,719 -2%
13. Sheboygan 48,130 -5%
14. Wauwatosa 45,498 -3%
15. Fond du Lac 42,063 0%
16. Brookfield 39,209 1%
17. New Berlin 39,016 2%
18. Wausau 38,054 -1%
19. Beloit 36,633 2%
20. Greenfield 36,130 2%
21. Franklin 35,010 15%
22. Menomonee Falls 34,375 5%
23. Oak Creek 33,212 14%
24. Manitowoc 33,033 -3%
25. West Bend 29,778 5%
26. Sun Prairie 27,758 3%
27. Superior 26,625 -2%
28. Mount Pleasant 25,834 10%
29. Caledonia 25,390 7%
30. Neenah 24,956 2%
31. Stevens Point 24,849 0%
32. Mequon 23,390 3%
33. Fitchburg 23,246 11%
34. Watertown 22,969 5%
35. Muskego 22,839 6%
36. De Pere 22,736 9%
37. South Milwaukee 21,125 0%
38. Pleasant Prairie 19,649 17%
39. Germantown 19,375 5%
40. Marshfield 18,848 0%
41. Cudahy 18,573 1%
42. Wisconsin Rapids 17,493 -6%
43. Ashwaubenon 17,335 -2%
44. Middleton 16,921 6%
45. Menasha 16,779 2%
46. Onalaska 16,644 10%
47. Howard 16,437 17%
48. Menomonie 15,421 3%
49. Beaver Dam 15,266 0%
50. Kaukauna 15,229 14%


Annual Estimates of the Population of Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas (http://www.census.gov/popest/metro/CBSA-est2007-annual.html - broken link)
Population Estimates for Places over 100,000: 2000 to 2006 (http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/SUB-EST2007.html - broken link)
Population Estimates for All Places: 2000 to 2007 (http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/SUB-EST2007-4.html - broken link)
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Old 09-13-2008, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side, Milwaukee
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sorry... that's not how i thought the formatting would turn out
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Old 09-13-2008, 08:38 AM
 
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Actually when the census bureau does its leg work they take into account of Racine county which is Milwaukee Metro and including illegals I would put or city at 630,000 and metro at 2,000,000. 1.5 is way to conservative of an estimate for the metro, and there have been estimates as many as 35,000 illegals in Milwaukee many from Mexico and eastern and southern europe.
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Old 09-14-2008, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Popeyes
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Actually when the census bureau does its leg work they take into account of Racine county which is Milwaukee Metro and including illegals I would put or city at 630,000 and metro at 2,000,000. 1.5 is way to conservative of an estimate for the metro, and there have been estimates as many as 35,000 illegals in Milwaukee many from Mexico and eastern and southern europe.
half the southside is illegals
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Old 09-14-2008, 06:41 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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I was perusing the Milwaukee forum this evening and there is quite a bit of dispute as to the size of the city of Milwaukee and Metro Milwaukee in comparison to other places. So I thought I'd do some leg work that anyone wishing to refer to such information can have a reliable source.

Here are the US Census Bureau's 2007 Estimates:

METROS (all over 1 million) CITIES (all over 300,000)
1. New York City 18,816,000 1. New York City 8,274,000
2. Los Angeles 12,876,000 2. Los Angeles 3,834,000
3. Chicago 9,525,000 3. Chicago 2,837,000
4. Dallas 6,145,000 4. Houston 2,208,000
5. Philadelphia 5,828,000 5. Phoenix 1,552,000
6. Houston 5,628,000 6. Philadelphia 1,449,000
7. Miami 5,413,000 7. San Antonio 1,329,000
8. Washington D.C. 5,306,000 8. San Diego 1,266,000
9. Atlanta 5,279,000 9. Dallas 1,240,000
10. Boston 4,483,000 10. San Jose 940,000
11. Detroit 4,468,000 11. Detroit 917,000
12. San Francisco 4,204,000 12. Jacksonville 806,000
13. Phoenix 4,179,000 13. Indianapolis 795,000
14. Riverside, CA 4,081,000 14. San Francisco 765,000
15. Seattle 3,309,000 15. Columbus 748,000
16. Minneapolis 3,208,000 16. Austin 743,000
17. San Diego 2,975,000 17. Fort Worth 682,000
18. St. Louis 2,804,000 18. Memphis 674,000
19. Tampa 2,724,000 19. Charlotte 672,000
20. Baltimore 2,668,000 20. Baltimore 637,000
21. Denver 2,465,000 21. El Paso 607,000
22. Pittsburgh 2,355,000 22. Milwaukee 602,000
23. Portland 2,175,000 23. Boston 599,000
24. Cincinnati 2,134,000 24. Seattle 594,000
25. Cleveland 2,096,000 25. Nashville 591,000
26. Sacramento 2,091,000 26. Denver 588,000
27. Orlando 2,032,000 27. Washington D.C. 588,000
28. San Antonio 1,991,000 28. Las Vegas 559,000
29. Kansas City 1,985,000 29. Louisville 558,000
30. Las Vegas 1,836,000 30. Portland 550,000
31. San Jose 1,803,000 31. Oklahoma City 547,000
32. Columbus 1,754,000 32. Tucson 526,000
33. Indianapolis 1,695,000 33. Atlanta 519,000
34. Virgina Beach 1,659,000 34. Albuquerque 518,000
35. Charlotte 1,652,000 35. Fresno 471,000
36. Providence 1,601,000 36. Long Beach 467,000
37. Austin 1,598,000 37. Sacramento 460,000
38. Milwaukee 1,544,000 38. Mesa, AZ 453,000
39. Nashville 1,521,000 39. Kansas City, MO 450,000
40. Jacksonville 1,300,000 40. Cleveland 438,000
41. Memphis 1,281,000 41. Virgina Beach 435,000
42. Louisville 1,234,000 42. Omaha 425,000
43. Richmond 1,213,000 43. Miami 410,000
44. Oklahoma City 1,193,000 44. Oakland 401,000
45. Hartford 1,189,000 45. Tulsa 384,000
46. Buffalo 1,128,000 46. Minneapolis 377,000
47. Birmingham 1,108,000 47. Colorado Springs 376,000
48. Salt Lake City 1,100,000 48. Raleigh 376,000
49. Raleigh 1,048,000 49. Honolulu 376,000
50. Rochester 1,030,000 50. Arlington, TX 371,000
51. New Orleans 1,030,000 51. Wichita 361,000
52. St. Louis 351,000
53. Santa Ana 340,000
54. Tampa 337,000
55. Anaheim 333,000
56. Cincinnati 332,000
57. Bakersfield 316,000
58. Aurora, CO 312,000
59. Pittsburgh 311,000

MUNICIPALITIES IN WISCONSIN
(all over 15,000 / % growth 2000-2007 / in Metro Milwaukee)
1. Milwaukee 602,191 1%
2. Madison 228,775 8%
3. Green Bay 100,781 -2%
4. Kenosha 96,265 5%
5. Racine 78,805 -3%
6. Appleton 70,017 0%
7. Waukesha 66,762 3%
8. Eau Claire 64,980 4%
9. Oshkosh 64,592 2%
10. Janesville 63,012 4%
11. West Allis 59,763 -2%
12. La Crosse 50,719 -2%
13. Sheboygan 48,130 -5%
14. Wauwatosa 45,498 -3%
15. Fond du Lac 42,063 0%
16. Brookfield 39,209 1%
17. New Berlin 39,016 2%
18. Wausau 38,054 -1%
19. Beloit 36,633 2%
20. Greenfield 36,130 2%
21. Franklin 35,010 15%
22. Menomonee Falls 34,375 5%
23. Oak Creek 33,212 14%
24. Manitowoc 33,033 -3%
25. West Bend 29,778 5%
26. Sun Prairie 27,758 3%
27. Superior 26,625 -2%
28. Mount Pleasant 25,834 10%
29. Caledonia 25,390 7%
30. Neenah 24,956 2%
31. Stevens Point 24,849 0%
32. Mequon 23,390 3%
33. Fitchburg 23,246 11%
34. Watertown 22,969 5%
35. Muskego 22,839 6%
36. De Pere 22,736 9%
37. South Milwaukee 21,125 0%
38. Pleasant Prairie 19,649 17%
39. Germantown 19,375 5%
40. Marshfield 18,848 0%
41. Cudahy 18,573 1%
42. Wisconsin Rapids 17,493 -6%
43. Ashwaubenon 17,335 -2%
44. Middleton 16,921 6%
45. Menasha 16,779 2%
46. Onalaska 16,644 10%
47. Howard 16,437 17%
48. Menomonie 15,421 3%
49. Beaver Dam 15,266 0%
50. Kaukauna 15,229 14%


Annual Estimates of the Population of Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas (http://www.census.gov/popest/metro/CBSA-est2007-annual.html - broken link)
Population Estimates for Places over 100,000: 2000 to 2006 (http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/SUB-EST2007.html - broken link)
Population Estimates for All Places: 2000 to 2007 (http://www.census.gov/popest/cities/SUB-EST2007-4.html - broken link)

If you are just talking about Population "Milwaukee " is just a mid-level large city and urban area , the type that falls into that 1 Million to 2 Million catagory , but if you are talking about prestige and status with that grouping "Milwaukee isn't doing that well , they have a "Long Status" Professional Baseball & Basketball Team and that about it to the Milwaukee Metropoitan Area...No Iconic Skyscrapers or structures to set it outside the norm and separate it from the "Pack" they have pretty much what any mid-sized Urban Area Has.
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:43 PM
 
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If you are just talking about Population "Milwaukee " is just a mid-level large city and urban area , the type that falls into that 1 Million to 2 Million catagory , but if you are talking about prestige and status with that grouping "Milwaukee isn't doing that well , they have a "Long Status" Professional Baseball & Basketball Team and that about it to the Milwaukee Metropoitan Area...No Iconic Skyscrapers or structures to set it outside the norm and separate it from the "Pack" they have pretty much what any mid-sized Urban Area Has.
Not quite true. Milwaukee has MUCH more character and historic architecture than most western cities. Of course, San Francisco is an exception. Milwaukee is one of the nation's best-kept secrets, as far as I'm concerned. If they could just get some decent public transit they would improve drastically...
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Bay View, Milwaukee
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.....No Iconic Skyscrapers or structures to set it outside the norm and separate it from the "Pack" they have pretty much what any mid-sized Urban Area Has.
Actually, the City Hall is iconic, thanks in large part to Laverne and Shirley. That's not to say it's an everyday household icon, like the Eiffel Tower or the Empire State Building, but it is still distinctive, and it's one thing many people look for when they visit.

There are other very distinctive structures with varying degrees of iconicity:

* The Calatrava brise-soleil addition to the art museum
* The Rockwell building's clock tower (the so-called "Polish Moon")
* The North Point Water Tower
* Hoan Bridge
* Miller Park Stadium

There are many other structures, too, but these are among the most recognizable.
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:55 AM
 
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There are illegal immigrants in every major city. Hypothetically, even if all these people were counted, Milwaukee would still rank roughly the same being that other cities would count theirs. I think a 2 million metro population is a bit optimistic (A 17% population increase from 3-5 years ago is very substantial). Estimates can be faulty-precise but not accurate.
Milwaukee, as far as cityscape, is a city that attempts to maintain its original character, as is witnessed in some of the architecture. The way people here compare themselves to Chicago reminds me of how people in my hometown (Birmingham) compare themselves to Atlanta; it's silly. Milwaukee would be better suited competing with places like Cleveland, Minneapolis, or Indianapolis-let Chicago take on Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, etc. It could be worse-you could be Omaha .
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Old 09-18-2008, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Not quite true. Milwaukee has MUCH more character and historic architecture than most western cities. Of course, San Francisco is an exception. Milwaukee is one of the nation's best-kept secrets, as far as I'm concerned. If they could just get some decent public transit they would improve drastically...
I'm totally on board with you with REP!!!
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